Zig zag

by **Kuju** » 29 May 2004 17:14

I hate when locks are zig zagged at the opening it makes then so hard ot pick. any help ot make it easier?

by **maldotcom2** » 29 May 2004 17:56

do you mean a zig zag keyhole? arent all locks like that? i mean there not just straight?
:?:

by **Darek84CJ** » 29 May 2004 17:59

They are called wards. All keyways have em, just some are more, extreme wards. Evva keyways are have insane wards, but something like Kwikset just has 1 or 2 simple ones.

by **marso** » 29 May 2004 21:44

Any help. Take the lock apart work how it works and perhaps make unique tools to suit that lock. Else you can try using thinner picks (like euro style), or even smaller picks to make it easier with this keyway. Another option is you may have to change the way you pick compared to normal locks.

Normally the I would suggest get a simple lock and practice till you get great. I do not mean pick it once, pick it 100s or 1000s of times and each time think about what you are doing, try picking at different angles, speed, order, think about where on the bottom of the pin you are pushing form etc..

by **PickPick** » 30 May 2004 1:57

If you put in an electric pick and let it run for an hour or so, the wards will magically disappear

by **Kuju** » 30 May 2004 13:03

Lol, but yeah it just makes me frustrated when they are so Zaggy. But other then that its patience.

and WD40

by **CaptHook** » 30 May 2004 20:04

For heavily warded locks, definately try a thinner pick. Im trying to avoid buying a euro set, but have taken many picks over the years (homemade and store bought) and thinned them by sanding them with 320, progressing to 1500 for polishing.
Chuck

by **tuningmaster** » 2 Jun 2004 4:00

Not all locks are zig zagged. Some european lock (like are used in Switzerland) have a straight keyway. Thats the optimum to pick a lock. But these locks have a little bit more pins (up to 26 pins). They can have up to 8 pinrows (KABA Star). Straigt is not better as you can see :lol:

by **technik** » 2 Jun 2004 8:11

26 pins! you got a picture?

by **tuningmaster** » 2 Jun 2004 9:19

look this one. Sorry, if you dont understand german :lol:

http://www.kaba.ch/downloads/prospekte/kmesta101d0702.pdf

by **mbell** » 2 Jun 2004 10:25

Is it just me or does that send a funny tingling feeling right down your spine.

I have a Kaba Gemini lock, which I think is 10+ years old, 22 pins I believe but I've never tried picking it.

Is the Kaba Star the newest model then?

by **tuningmaster** » 2 Jun 2004 11:52

Yes it is and it harder to pick :evil:

by **Ice** » 7 Jun 2004 0:17

Those keys have 20+ pins? Wow!

I had no idea... I always wondered what those key/locks were all about. I know people who have those funny hole-type keys and wondered how it worked. I was always under the impression it was some electronic lock that red the pins/etc.

There is another key I've seen around before... it looks like a key blank. Yup, it has the same "zig zag" to fit the keyward, I think, but yet all there is is a flat top/buttom surface. The top, however, has little circles in it... they're filled with plastic or something...? Those keys always made me curious but I still have no idea... ideas?

by **mcm757207** » 7 Jun 2004 9:39

Kaba locks have someting like three rows of pins, near the top of the lock right? Dimple key?

by **Chucklz** » 7 Jun 2004 15:48

Plastic filled you say? I would guess it to be some kind of magnetic lock, probably a Miwa.

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