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by PhR0Z3N_PhL4M3 » 9 Jun 2004 19:36
well i got some homemade picks .. thanks to pyro's vid .. anywho i start picking .. (its a master pad lock) and i feel as though i set all the pins (4 i think) but it just dont turn .. i know im doing somthin wrong ... but i cant figure it out .... i ease up on tension , i give it alot of tension i've tryed it all just cant get it .. any tips ?
also what would you guys reccomend me trying to pick for a first lock
BTW. i picked the front door lock .. 5 pin tumbler i think it is but that was almost by accident.
andrew
(sorry if this has been answered before)
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by WhiteHat » 9 Jun 2004 19:59
What number master lock is it?
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by Chucklz » 9 Jun 2004 20:49
Your "eased up" tension is probably still alot. Is the lock new, or well worn, do you have a key etc?
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by PhR0Z3N_PhL4M3 » 9 Jun 2004 20:56
the number is, No. 3 ... and its old .. i found it so im pretty sure its broken or what not ... but my dad has some larger ones on his trailor that work .. he got one open by picking on accident .. but we still have the same prob.
and ya we have to apply alot of tension .. or we do .. we shold use like very little tension? sorry imma new to this
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by WhiteHat » 9 Jun 2004 21:03
try dropping the tension - if you have the key, stick it in and using just two fingers, apply only just enough tension to open the lock. this is the maximum amount that you will ever need to use for that lock.
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by Chucklz » 9 Jun 2004 21:08
Old locks probably need a good cleaning /lube job. Try and use a silicone or teflon spray if you have it, but wd40 may work in a pinch. The wd40 will tend to gum up over time though, so its usually my last resort.
On the number 3.. you will need to apply very little tension to actually pick it, but a good amount of tension to actually turn the plug and open the lock.
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by Guitar_J » 9 Jun 2004 22:41
No. 3 is a good lock to start with, it was my first. This is how to do it, (or atleast how i do it... you may change this to suit your style) first read the MIT guide several times...
ok.. finished? here ya go
I hold the lock in my left hand, upside down, with the bottom of the keyway away from me, with my thumb and index finger wrapped around it... I put my wrench in the bottom of the keyway with the handle to the left and lightly LIGHTLY rest my index finger on the end of the wrench.. seriously.. just lay your finger on it, now you can either rake it or pick it pin by pin..
I started with raking (you learned how to do this in the MIT guide) but your mileage may vary. with one of my No. 3 locks, you just have to rake once and it opens, another puts up a bit more of a fight, but it isn't difficult. when I first started I usually used a combonation of raking and picking, but now I'm trying to get away from raking, not that i think it is bad, but I don't feel it is true Picking, it is called lock Picking, not lock raking. but it is a good means to get started. IMHO
Keep at it, you can open this lock and many others.
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by zeke79 » 10 Jun 2004 7:01
Chucklz wrote:Old locks probably need a good cleaning /lube job. Try and use a silicone or teflon spray if you have it, but wd40 may work in a pinch. The wd40 will tend to gum up over time though, so its usually my last resort.
On the number 3.. you will need to apply very little tension to actually pick it, but a good amount of tension to actually turn the plug and open the lock.
Good call, I have an old no.3 a friend gave me that was cut off of their storage facilities and it was pretty tough to pick until it was cleaned and lubricated.
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by frollard » 12 Jun 2004 4:00
zeke79 wrote:Chucklz wrote:Old locks probably need a good cleaning /lube job. Try and use a silicone or teflon spray if you have it, but wd40 may work in a pinch. The wd40 will tend to gum up over time though, so its usually my last resort.
On the number 3.. you will need to apply very little tension to actually pick it, but a good amount of tension to actually turn the plug and open the lock.
Good call, I have an old no.3 a friend gave me that was cut off of their storage facilities and it was pretty tough to pick until it was cleaned and lubricated.
I've got an old master in front of me, and key-lost, it was the target of lots of vandalism as my locker lock. at one point had the entire keyway filled with wax-crayon. (bastards!), this however seems to work as a good lube, and it opens with a gentle rake 
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