Can't pick this lock, help please?

[bayerische]

Hi I'm new here (obviously) and I've just started trying to pick this one lock on my bedroom door. I'm knew to this entire thing but I have a pretty good idea of what I'm supposed to do.

Here is the lock:


And here are my tools:


With the tools that I have, I'm pretty sure I should be able to open this lock. A member on another forum that I'm part of told me he works for Schlage and that lock is near impossible to pick... is this true?

Thanks for the help.

[zeke79]

schlage is rough to start out picking. You should try to get a kwikset deadbolt and remove all but 1 or two pins and practive on that adding a pin at a time until you are up to 5. standard schlages are definately not near impossible to pick it just takes practice.

[WhiteHat]

looks pretty standard to me... but you might want to use a hook instead of a small half diamond..

[Chucklz]

Your lock is quite possible to pick. I picked two so far today. Now if only I were charging for lockouts...

[CaptHook]

Sounds to me like he believes the hype his company puts out.
Chuck

[Varjeal]

Just curious, and I'm suprised no one else noticed, but why do you have a double cylinder deadbolt on your bedroom door? Do your parents lock you in your room from time to time? I'm not being sarcastic either, btw. That also doesn't appear to be a standard SC1 keyway either...

[Chucklz]

Now that you mention it... why do you have blinds on your bedroom door?

[Romstar]

Well, maybe it isn't on his bedroom door, but he is obviously on the inside of the door. So, he obviously has access.

I thought it looked like the SC1 keyway, but I would actually have to take a better look at a diagram of them.

They aren't a bread and butter item for me.

Romstar

[Retrovertigo]

Mabey the guy lives in his parents garage. I live in my parents basement! I have two doors like this in my little apartment.


Aside from that... uhmm pointless question. zeke79 has a good point. Schlage is built very well and is less vulnerable to defect and exploitation. On the other hand Kwikset is made with inferior materials, is not built as well, and is less secure.

But I would still invest in Schlage locks for practice. And the reason I say that is because once you learn to pick kwikset/titan locks they are no longer challanging. You learn their defects. Most locksmiths, including myself can usually get into them in less than 30 seconds. They are the most exploitable lock on the market.

Take Zeke's advice and key down to one or two pins untill you get the hang of it. But see if you can get your hands on some schlage, Illco, and master locks (to name just a few) and do the same. You will notice the difference. And you will gain better skill with better variety.

[mcm757207]

Looks like an SC1 keyway to me...

[S3rratedSp00L]

You should be able to get it open if you play with it long enough. (if it has security pins it'll probably just take longer.) Light tension, but sometimes bouncing the tension a bit helps with these. The diamond might be better to learn with than the sawtooth rake in my opinion, but try them both. Try feeling each pin with the diamond pick first without tension to get a feel for the springs. This may help you later. You just need to develop a feel for this particular lock. Do not get discouraged. Schlage are definitely pickable!

[Retrovertigo]

That may not be a Schlage core. It is a C keyway but it could very well be an Ilco cylinder. The Ilco keyway is also fuzz larger than the schlage.

Some hardware stores will swap them out to make higher profits. Then re-stock the schlage cylinder into inventory and sell it for retail. It's dirty pool but you would be suprised how many companies do it.

[bayerische]

Just curious, and I'm suprised no one else noticed, but why do you have a double cylinder deadbolt on your bedroom door? Do your parents lock you in your room from time to time? I'm not being sarcastic either, btw. That also doesn't appear to be a standard SC1 keyway either...

I don't know, it was there when we moved into this house, all of the deadbolts are like that. If my parents locked me in my bedroom, I would have learned how to pick that lock a long long time ago. My bedroom has two doors, that door is part of double French-doors leading out to the balcony. I have a normal door you know...

Now that you mention it... why do you have blinds on your bedroom door?

Because it's my bedroom? There's glass behind those blinds, so people would be able to see me when I'm lock-picking naked .

Thanks for all the input guys, it's been pretty helpful. I took out two pins from one of the bolts so three are left now, and I still can't get through (I'm pretty close though). We recently bought new locks for the front door and I get two cylinder pieces to play around with, I'll go take a few pictures of their "guts" in a minute so that you can get a better idea of what I'm dealing with, they're the same type as the one pictured above.

Thanks again.

[bayerische]

Here they are:




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[Luke]

Notice some of the pins look like they still have a little colour on them, this tells me the lock must have been rekeyed