Cheap chinese "Pro-Tek" disc detainer padlock picked

[Scott_93]

I've just picked this padlock now and I am totally amazed, I used some "Easily accessible household items" to pick it, but unfortunately I carn't go into too much detail in the open forum, here's some pictures of the lock:













Thanks,
Scott.

[Jaakko]

Ah, the really cheap chinese locks that have only three cut angles in the keys Would love to know how they make the keys and why only that amount of angles...

Those are indeed super easy to pick, especially with the right tool

[JK_the_CJer]

We were talking about this in IRC and I'm glad you got it open eventually. Good job!

[raimundo]

How is it that this cannot be discussed, it the name of this site not Lockpicking?

This is not high security. simply because it uses discs. Knowing how to pick these is not going to make abloy easier, these locks are different. These are low security.

to not talk about them is wrong, until they rename this site "security because we won't tell you how flawed your locks are."

This should be talked about like any other cheap and insecure lock. down with this sacred cow, or golden bull or whatever offends the least number of people.

[Wizer]

I agree with Raimundo on this subject. Its not very high security. So aren´t many vehicle locks, old abloys etc.. But drawing a line is not an easy task, so I´ll live by the rules, and respect admins & mods judgement.

[Jaakko]

How is it that this cannot be discussed, it the name of this site not Lockpicking?

It is a rotating disc detainer lock and thus deemed advanced. I don't make the rules, I just play by them.

You are right in that this particular lock is not high security lock, but that doesn't change the rules.

[rrkss]

Even though it is considered advanced, I agree with raimundo in that we should be allowed to discuss the skill. Picking is an art and science that takes an enormous amount of practice to develop effectively. JK, myself and others have put out an enormous amount of information on how to crack medeco for example but very few people actually are able to do it. I feel the same applies to other so called "advanced" locks like the disc detainer lock. Let us discuss it freely because knowing the information and having the skillset to use the information are two different things.

[unlisted]

Even though it is considered advanced, I agree with raimundo in that we should be allowed to discuss the skill. Picking is an art and science that takes an enormous amount of practice to develop effectively. JK, myself and others have put out an enormous amount of information on how to crack medeco for example but very few people actually are able to do it. I feel the same applies to other so called "advanced" locks like the disc detainer lock. Let us discuss it freely because knowing the information and having the skillset to use the information are two different things.

Yes, it can be discussed- in advanced forums.

This is why we have the advanced forums.

The reason we have the advanced forums is so we can talk about locks that are normally used on high security applications, and we don't have to worry about a "guest" seeing information on it in the public forum. Its just another layer of security, which is necessary.

[shaothegreat]

I have one of these locks - I actually bought it for $1 at a Dollar Store here in Houston. I honestly haven't even bothered to try picking it but now I'll give it a go.
Drop me a PM Scott_93 so we can discuss techniques.

[peejay52]

scott-93,
just read your post...well done mate...Also noted you are in mcr...me too(ashton-u-lyne)..I have the detainer pick and enjoy picking these locks but would love a pm regarding how you pick yours,
regards,
Pete

[magician59]

I have one of these locks - I actually bought it for $1 at a Dollar Store here in Houston. I honestly haven't even bothered to try picking it but now I'll give it a go.
Drop me a PM Scott_93 so we can discuss techniques.

You in Houston? What part? I'm in Tomball

[Legion303]

I'm leaving this thread open while we discuss in mod forum. Please don't discuss specific techniques in the meantime.

-steve

[unlisted]

So the general consensus was no discussion on any advanced materials. (no matter how cheap some of the locks may be)

If we start talking about these cheap disc detainers, well, whats to stop us from chatting about abloy disc detainers, etc? There is an advanced sub forum for these (advanced material) types of conversations.

[tecnovist]

have a number of cheep disc locks of the type above in service - --- i am attempting to up grade to abloy the cost is way to high out here in NZ - -- but they are meant to be the best so -- those cheep stile disc locks need to be exposed for what they are - - hell i hacked one open on seconds with a sharpened nail by hammering the nail end - the disc retainer pined apart - seened to be brass with a high lead content in it - - making it free machine and crack sanative