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Pronouncing "Schlage" and picking question

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Pronouncing "Schlage" and picking question

Postby pkunicursal » 14 Oct 2003 10:31

2 questions I could use help on. First is How do you pronounce Schlage. I am thinking it is SH-LODGE. German? Second question is that I have a Schlage key-in-knob lock that I cant get open. Does it take light tension or heavy tension to open these kinds. I appreciate any help.

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Postby Varjeal » 14 Oct 2003 10:43

Hahaha....sorry....when I first started locksmithing I must've heard a thousand different ways of pronouncing Schlage. I haven't visited there in quite awhile, but at one time they used to have a female pronouncing it properly on their website.

Check out:

www.schlage.com

and poke around it might be in there. I usually say it the right way, but I have no idea how to type it out here so it makes sense.

Generally, Schlage locks require light tension depending on the quality/grade and age of the lock.

As always, I first recommend that you flush the lock with a good silicon/teflon lubricant to remove any debris in the lock.

Schlage locks in general have tighter plug to shell tolerances than cheaper brands such as Weiser, Kwikset, and Taymor.

Try light tension and single-pin picking. Take time to develop your sense of touch and listen/feel for the pin movement. If this is a commercial grade lock your working on, you may need to use slightly heavier tension as the locks work on a clutch, rather than the standard spring latches.

Another tip would be to try picking the lock in the opposite direction and then use a plug spinner to move it to the unlock position. Many have success with this method.

Good luck, and don't forget to post with your results.
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bleh

Postby Bitter Man » 14 Oct 2003 15:58

Yea I've never encountered a door-in-knob lock that I could actually pick in the correct, unlocking direction. I find it easy to pick it in the locking direction, then just use a plug spinner. Door in knob locks also have the added problem of the whole doorknob flexing when you apply tension. I would hold onto the knob and press with your index finger to apply tension so as to minimize the overall flexing of your workspace.
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Postby pkunicursal » 16 Oct 2003 10:08

Well after only a few minutes on the second day of attempting to open this thing i got it. The key is using the right amount of tension. Also, i had to use the tension wrench that came with my pick gun because it allowed more room for my rake. I used an "L" rake by the way.
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Postby Varjeal » 16 Oct 2003 11:21

You are very much right, tension is the number one key to picking any lock.

Thanks for posting your experience. What type of pick gun are you using?
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Postby pkunicursal » 16 Oct 2003 11:38

A black Lock-Aid. I have heard various remarks as to the effectiveness of pick guns, but i would say that mine works about 75% of the time. It can also open up some big Master padlocks. I tried it on the Schlage key-in-knob lock that I posted about and it did not work. Doesnt it feel so much better though knowing that you can open up a lock with just standard picks and that you dont need a gun?
The fool speaks because he has to say something. The wise man speaks because he has something to say. ~ Shakespeare
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Postby Varjeal » 16 Oct 2003 11:43

I use a manual pick gun made by Majestic and the only lock it has ever failed on was a damaged Schlage, and some automotive locks. And yes, it does give a person a greater sense of accomplishment to hand pick a lock. :)
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