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New vending machine locks

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New vending machine locks

Postby stwmlocksmiths » 22 Nov 2010 13:08

Anyone aware of any picks or tips on picking this type of lock, it looks like it works on the same principal as tubular locks, except the pins are flush with the plug

Heres a pic

http://www.vanlock.com/image_b109.jpg
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Re: New vending machine locks

Postby Squelchtone » 22 Nov 2010 19:07

stwmlocksmiths wrote:Anyone aware of any picks or tips on picking this type of lock, it looks like it works on the same principal as tubular locks, except the pins are flush with the plug

Heres a pic

http://www.vanlock.com/image_b109.jpg


Since it is a vending lock or most often used on vending equipment, we don't discuss it in the open forum. It is not a new lock however, these have been around for years. There's a special method you use, and all I can say is a custom tension tool helps out a lot.

Squelchtone

ps. I wont link to it, but please go to youtube.com and search for: some guy picking a van lock
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Re: New vending machine locks

Postby beaver289 » 29 Sep 2011 4:26

This lock also has me beaten. I recently acquired 7 vending machines thru auction and can't get any info on how to pick them. I have the pick, but can't get them open to see if they work so I can resell them. I shake a little from Parkinson's so that doesn't help me either.
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Re: New vending machine locks

Postby MacGyver101 » 29 Sep 2011 7:39

beaver289 wrote:This lock also has me beaten. I recently acquired 7 vending machines thru auction and can't get any info on how to pick them. I have the pick, but can't get them open to see if they work so I can resell them. I shake a little from Parkinson's so that doesn't help me either.

Very sorry to hear that. We still can't discuss these in the open forums... otherwise anyone who Googled "how to pick a vending machine lock" would have instructions on how to break into your vending machines (which clearly wouldn't be good).

That aside, if you actually have purchased a pick for a Van Lock from somewhere (which surprises me: I've never seen one for sale), surely it came with instructions?
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Re: New vending machine locks

Postby Evan » 29 Sep 2011 9:54

beaver289 wrote:This lock also has me beaten. I recently acquired 7 vending machines thru auction and can't get any info on how to pick them. I have the pick, but can't get them open to see if they work so I can resell them. I shake a little from Parkinson's so that doesn't help me either.


@beaver289:

That will teach you a lesson about buying repossessed equipment at an auction and trying to turn a quick buck on flipping it... Contact a locksmith in your area who knows what a Van Lock is who can remove them using destructive techniques and sell you replacement locks for the T handles on your recently acquired group of 7 vending machines that came with no keys...

The only people who can make keys for Van Locks is Van Lock -- so trying to pick them open is of no value, since there is NO way at all for you to make a key once they are open just destroy and replace them... If the keys were easy to obtain Van Locks would not be so popular on vending machines would they ?

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Re: New vending machine locks

Postby MacGnG1 » 29 Sep 2011 16:34

since we cant discuss picking them here, if you would like to replace them with 7 keyed alike medeco cylinders, i have some for sale or trade ;) .... i'm surprised you couldnt find any info about them... its not very hard to find.
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Re: New vending machine locks

Postby beaver289 » 3 Oct 2011 23:40

@ Evan........to retort to your snotty remark about flipping things for a quick buck, I won this equipment with a bid of $25. There were NO other bids. I placed it for the mere fact I can haul them to a scrapyard and make 5x my money back by melting them down. I saw that yes, I can sell them refurbished for around $3000 on a good day. Thats IF they're fixable, thats IF they even work(power supply cords missing as well). All I'm trying to do is save a few bucks, and pass that on to someone else so they may make some cash. You don't know that also I live in a rural area, calling a locksmith is easy a $200 trip charge plus. I bought a pick for $300 to try and to have another tool around.

I get a pension from the US Army and thats it. My retirement plan evaporated after 9-11. If trying to make an extra buck for Xmas, for gas, whatever, I guess makes me a bad guy.

The point I'm trying to make is I can have drilled out, whatever, I just needed to get inside and see if they are worth me investing more $$$$ to fix. What if some parts inside dont work and they're junk? I had someone crack open a piece of scrap metal for $400. Times 7. See what I'm up against?
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Re: New vending machine locks

Postby beaver289 » 3 Oct 2011 23:44

MacGnG1 wrote:since we cant discuss picking them here, if you would like to replace them with 7 keyed alike medeco cylinders, i have some for sale or trade ;) .... i'm surprised you couldnt find any info about them... its not very hard to find.



Thats good with me if I get them open. I will have to buy locks for replacement if I get that far. Any ideas for removing the van lock from where I am? (Locked out) Will it even drill out ?
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Re: New vending machine locks

Postby MrScruff » 4 Oct 2011 9:34

Beaver289, you're right. We don't know (insert various facts about you here), we also can't take your word for it without any kind of proof. There's nothing wrong with wanting to make a quick buck legally but judging by your post to Evan, I think you're in over your head on this one. Bring them to the scrapyard and call it a day; you'll come out a few dollars richer and a few experiences wiser.
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Re: New vending machine locks

Postby keysman » 5 Oct 2011 7:15

MacGyver101 wrote:
That aside, if you actually have purchased a pick for a Van Lock from somewhere (which surprises me: I've never seen one for sale), surely it came with instructions?

Custom Security Products ( maybe out of business) made one years ago. It was sold as an add on to the basic tubular pick. Worked very well. I may still have one somewhere.




Evan wrote:The only people who can make keys for Van Locks is Van Lock -- so trying to pick them open is of no value, since there is NO way at all for you to make a key once they are open just destroy and replace them... If the keys were easy to obtain Van Locks would not be so popular on vending machines would they ?

~~ Evan

That is not entirely true. I have a " kit" with the pins to make keys. I am not sure where it orginally came from, I bought it along with a bunch of Van locks and other vending /slot machine locks.
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