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[xMCxEMDUBx]

Are standard locks the same as deadbolt locks? And im also having a problem with a new lock my friend gave to me. He said it would be a challenge because the plug is loose.

Any advice?

[2octops]

What is a "standard lock"?

There are a lot of folks here from many different countries. What seems standard to some will be completely foreign to others.

What kind of lock did your friend give you?

There was a thread a few days ago about locks with loose plugs.

[xMCxEMDUBx]

Its a defiant deadbolt lock...this is the lock that has a loose plug.
It seems like the lock begins to open because i feel the tension wrench give a little.
Although all the pins seem like they are binding

[Solomon]

It probably isn't the plug that's loose; it just seems that way because the core sits loose in the housing. If the plug itself was loose that'd be a sign of extreme wear and in most cases that'd actually make the lock much easier to pick because the tolerances would be so poor.

What you're describing sounds like a false set, I'm not familiar with american brand names but I'm pretty sure I've heard mention of defiant locks having spools in them. Simple enough to pick past if you know what to feel for, do some reading on those and you should pop it in no time.

[xMCxEMDUBx]

Thanks ill do more research?

[gibson]

some of the defiant brand locks (sold in home depot) have spool pins in them. that's why you feel a certain 'give' when you push on a pin.

[xMCxEMDUBx]

How do i figure out how many spool pins there are?

[Solomon]

How do i figure out how many spool pins there are?

You don't. You just pick what binds until the lock is open. Most spooled locks will contain all but one regular pin, ie. a 5 pinner will be 4 spools + 1 regular, a 6 pinner will be 5 + 1. Not always though, plenty of 5 pin locks are fully pinned with spools and some older ones only contain 2 or 3. Don't think about it too much, just go by feel.

[xMCxEMDUBx]

Alright..ill keep trying

[xMCxEMDUBx]

i finally opened it...took me a day -_-

[catsoup]

i finally opened it...took me a day -_-

While its open it might be worth removing the cylinder if that's an option.you can make a plug follower out of a sharpie or something like that. Taking the pins out will give you a better idea of what was giving you trouble, and will show you if there are security pins.

[fawkesinator89]

Sockets from socket wrench sets make good plug followers as well. I have a cobalt set that does anyways.