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by kegood » 22 Feb 2005 15:07
Hi everyone, my name is Kris. I have a wall safe in my closet with NO markings on it. I have lost the key and need help on how to pick it open. I have a safe deposit key that I can turn halfway in the lock, then it stops! Any advice?? I am a complete novice, so any help would be great! Thank you!!!
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by Mr Ules » 22 Feb 2005 15:21
The only thing I can recommend is that you bite the bullet and get a locksmith. Think about it. If we could help you, as a novice, get into your safe, then your safe wouldn't be very safe. It would take a lot more than our help to get it open.
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by quicklocks » 22 Feb 2005 15:22
hi
i will post this before anyone else does if its a safe lock and you are a novice picker there is very little chance that you will pick it open anytime soon so the best advice i can give is for you to call a locksmith who will open it for you
sorry
people asking to open a safe can get roasted read the faqs mate. 
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by digital_blue » 22 Feb 2005 15:24
Hi Kris! Picking locks is something that takes a great deal of patience and time to learn. If you are merely interested in opening *this particular* wall safe, I would suggest you call a locksmith. I think to learn the skill of lock picking for that one task is sort of like getting a degree in accounting so you can do your taxes.
If you are actually interested in learning to pick locks out of genuine interest, there are many here who will be happy to help. Please read the FAQ section of this website, and then move on to the MIT Guide.
You could also try posting some pictures of the wall safe in question. Normally safe bypass is not a topic of discussion on this board, however. Based on what you've said, I suspect what you have could hardly be called a safe, though.
Cheers.
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by digital_blue » 22 Feb 2005 15:26
Wow. 2 other posts within 3 minutes. I thought I was the only one sitting around here waiting for posts.
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by quicklocks » 22 Feb 2005 15:29
i thought i was going to pip this one to the post but no i was beat again
the early bird gets the worm but its the second mouse that gets the cheese 
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by Orange_Crusader » 22 Feb 2005 15:30
Odd...
It's not the right key (could be similar, or work, by some chance), but it sets the pins (presumably) and the it can open halfway. It should open right up, as long as the only thing you need is a key, and there isn't too much dirt or too little lubrication in the lock to let it open fully. Describe the safe face. Does it just have a keyway and a lever or handle to open it, or any other bits on it? It might just be stuck or dirty.
Does it grind or slow to a halt (a.k.a. dirt or lack of use/lubrication), or does it feel like it hits something that stops it from moving?
Unless it has a second set of pins on the bottom, that re-lock the safe when it is turned halfway using the same top parts of the pins, or if there is another trick to opening it, it shuld be opening. How long has it been sitting there closed up, and is there any evidence of corrosion (by high humdity, etc.) or dirt in the lock mechanism?
I'm almost completely new to this, so these are more or less all guesses, but I'll do what I can.
On another note, I wish I had something like that in my house, sounds like great fun for picking. 
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by MrB » 22 Feb 2005 15:34
Orange, we don't dive in with help to open safes, even though the question might be genuine. How can we know for sure?
Take a look at the posts above yours. 
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by digital_blue » 22 Feb 2005 15:34
Orange: Mu hnuch is it's just a warded lock, and the wrong key is getting hung up on a ward. I don't think this is a very high security safe, if a safety deposit box key will fit in the keyway. They are usually flat keys.
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by MrB » 22 Feb 2005 15:39
Even a completely wrong key will turn part way in a lever lock. It's how lever locks work.
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by Orange_Crusader » 22 Feb 2005 16:15
MrB wrote:Orange, we don't dive in with help to open safes, even though the question might be genuine. How can we know for sure? Take a look at the posts above yours. 
Whoops, forgot to consider that.
I must've taken a while to type (or left too long to get a drink), since none of the above posts (save for the original question) were there when I decided to post.
Sorry about that, I'll keep it in mind from now on.
Now, with a much more cautious view, I'll agree with the others to get a locksmith to open it, and/or make a key, if you like. 
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by RangerF150 » 22 Feb 2005 16:59
Even if you want to learn how to open it , unless you are taking a very long term view of this , then really you gotta go get a locksmith.
Whatever you have to pay him , you can offset that against the time you would have "wasted" trying to open it yourself.
To get to the point where you could be able to open it yourself will take a lot of time and indeed some expense , as you may need to get some tools to open it.
Welcome to the rather interesting world of lockpicking 
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by vector40 » 22 Feb 2005 22:33
Leave it in your wall and use it as a challenge to guests in your home.
"If you can open it, you can have what's in it!"
or maybe
"If you can open it, you can marry my daughter!"
or even
"If you can open it, you can have this cracker!"
Everybody wins.
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by kegood » 23 Feb 2005 8:18
Thanks to everyone who posted a reply about my wall safe. I am by no means a thief,  I'm a 34 year old stay at home mom with 2 girls (3 and 1)!
The safe is small, and in a closet. Nothing on it, and you pull it open with the key (if I could find it!!)  I guess I will call a locksmith - just thought it might be fun to learn - but unfortunately from what all you guys are saying, that could take a while!!
Thanks to everyone, and I really liked the idea of making it a challenge for my friends! But I don't think that my girls are ready for marriage yet! Thanks again!
Kristen 
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by digital_blue » 23 Feb 2005 12:01
Well, you could just let your friends hack away at it and by the time they actually get it open, your oldest will be ready for marriage. 
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