help with bump keys

[ice_man]

hi
i was just thinking about buying a yale bump key and i was wondering would a 6 pin bump key still bump a 5 pin lock or should i just get a 5 pin bump key

any help is appreciated thanks in advance

[easy-e]

I would assume a 6 pin key would be longer and would hit the back of the plug. It really depends on the specific lock you are trying to open. Some have sufficient room and some do not.

[MrAnybody]

hi
i was just thinking about buying a yale bump key and i was wondering would a 6 pin bump key still bump a 5 pin lock or should i just get a 5 pin bump key

any help is appreciated thanks in advance

As easy-e mentions, the 6 pin key will hit the back of the plug. It's too long.

My advice: Leave the bump key and pick it. Bump keys limit you, while picking does not.

[Solomon]

I'm not gonna go into a whole thing about why bumping sucks cos that's not what you wanna hear, but trust me, you're gonna be way better off learning to pick in the long run. Bumping is unreliable, tedious and not very satisfying. It is cool, but you'll get bored of it very quickly.

Now then, on to trying to help. I don't see why a 6 pin key wouldn't work on a 5 pinner if the spacing is correct... if it goes in too deep, you can use washers or dampeners to limit how far it goes in. That said, I've successfully bumped open a few 6 pin locks with the 5 pin keys I have. I've played around with them a fair bit but I'm not really that into it, so that's about as much as I can tell you.

[ice_man]

I'm not gonna go into a whole thing about why bumping sucks cos that's not what you wanna hear, but trust me, you're gonna be way better off learning to pick in the long run. Bumping is unreliable, tedious and not very satisfying. It is cool, but you'll get bored of it very quickly.

Now then, on to trying to help. I don't see why a 6 pin key wouldn't work on a 5 pinner if the spacing is correct... if it goes in too deep, you can use washers or dampeners to limit how far it goes in. That said, I've successfully bumped open a few 6 pin locks with the 5 pin keys I have. I've played around with them a fair bit but I'm not really that into it, so that's about as much as I can tell you.

i can pick locks and i do i was just thinking about trying bumping that's why i was thinking about getting a 6 pin key for more variation but i think im not going to bother now

[Solomon]

i can pick locks and i do i was just thinking about trying bumping that's why i was thinking about getting a 6 pin key for more variation but i think im not going to bother now

By all means get some to play with, they are cool... I was just saying, cos you get a lot of guys coming on here asking about bump keys cos they saw them on youtube or something and they think they're some kind of magical access-all-areas thing that anyone can just pick up and use. Video demonstrations on YT and in the media make them out to be a lot easier to make and use than they really are. Definitely easier than picking, well in some respects anyway... but I'd never trust my life to them.

[easy-e]

i can pick locks and i do i was just thinking about trying bumping that's why i was thinking about getting a 6 pin key for more variation but i think im not going to bother now

By all means get some to play with, they are cool... I was just saying, cos you get a lot of guys coming on here asking about bump keys cos they saw them on youtube or something and they think they're some kind of magical access-all-areas thing that anyone can just pick up and use. Video demonstrations on YT and in the media make them out to be a lot easier to make and use than they really are. Definitely easier than picking, well in some respects anyway... but I'd never trust my life to them.

Yeah, I still want to get some bump keys and jigglers to play with. I've had some locks that I insert my pick and it pops right open without me doing anything and I've had others that haunt me for weeks until I figure them out. It just happens to be that the majority of those videos are of moderately easy to pick locks with easy bitting and a lack of security pins. One full depth cut is all you need to screw up a bump key. I know there are bump keys for more high security locks but I doubt they work as easily as a cheap kwikset.

[Bypass 2469]

I have 3 Schladge locks six pin. Pinned differently. I cut my own 999 schladge key SC1 is for a 5 pin lock. The SC4 is designed for a six pin lock. I used a SC1 with shoulder slightly ground back and end used round file in order to fit a thick (O)- ring on. also because of the ramp at the shoulder of the key; a five pi will bump a six pin lock. But not if you use the pull out one click method. Btw The use of a rubber o-ring will not leave the tell tale signs of Bump-key use. U know the little dent at top and bottom of keyway face.

[Jeremym0411]

I use a few tools to help me bump locks. I use BROCKHAGE Bump Hammer (Standard Flex) and the BROCKHAGE FLEX PLUS Bump Hammer. I found that using different weights in the bump hammer make a HUGE difference. Along with the amount of torque you put on the key. You have to adjust the touque and the amount of swing as you bump the lock. You have to find the right combination and the lock will open.

[Squelchtone]

I use a few tools to help me bump locks. I use BROCKHAGE Bump Hammer (Standard Flex) and the BROCKHAGE FLEX PLUS Bump Hammer. I found that using different weights in the bump hammer make a HUGE difference. Along with the amount of torque you put on the key. You have to adjust the touque and the amount of swing as you bump the lock. You have to find the right combination and the lock will open.

so do you use brockage bump hammers or do you use stool legs as you said in your other post...

Thanks
Squelchtone

[Jeremym0411]

I use both. I normally start with the brockage hammers first.