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old Yale padlock

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Re: old Yale padlock

Postby GWiens2001 » 17 Oct 2013 13:34

Just googled the Yale 850 padlock. Well, the picture of how my brain is working is accurate. :roll:

Yes, you are looking at drilling/punching pins to disassemble that lock. Better to impression.

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Re: old Yale padlock

Postby YALESLEVIATHAN » 17 Oct 2013 19:04

Here's a few pics of the L850, with the working and over filed key.

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The lock that arrived today has been great fun. I tried, in vain, to SPP it with a Southord hook. It was full of old grime and muck, so much so, that for a few minutes, pin 1 seized after being pushed down. I flooded the plug with Wd40 and jiggled around for a while and thankfully it jumped back up again. After 10 minutes of having apparently set all the pins, I gave the plug a hard push with the tension wrench and it shifted by about 15 degrees, due to being so dirty. Lots of Wd40 later I got it to the stage where it was giving the endorphin giving pop when picked.

After taking your advice about impressioning, I mapped out the approximate pin heights, with the cylinder held in the open position by a tension wrench with a rubber band wrapped around the body. Just by chance I happened to have a Yale key on a 25 year old bunch of keys sitting on the computer table. This key looked unbelievably like the pin heights I had just felt, apart from pin 5. A bit of solder later and 15 minutes of impressioning, I couldn't believe it when the lock popped like the key was made for it, amazing. Will post a pic tomorrow. Just shows it's always worth a go. So that's two 50+ year old Yales that are now back at work.
Thanks so much for your tips and advice, it's great when these things work just like they should.
all the best, Nick.
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Re: old Yale padlock

Postby GWiens2001 » 17 Oct 2013 19:34

Thanks for the update, Nick. So many people never fill us in on what did, or did not, work. We appreciate your letting us know! And also thank you for saving the 'life' of two beautiful old locks.

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Re: old Yale padlock

Postby Raymond » 17 Oct 2013 22:46

Those are indeed beautiful old padlocks. The two pins on the side can be driven straight through and reused. The bottom of the lock slides out and EVERYTHING can be dissassembled. The lock does have to be unlocked to come apart. Good pictures too. Thanks for showing it.
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Re: old Yale padlock

Postby jeffmoss26 » 18 Oct 2013 12:41

Very cool! Never seen a Yale like that.
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Re: old Yale padlock

Postby jeffmoss26 » 18 Oct 2013 12:43

Oh yeah, on Gordon's point of finding out how things turn out...
I got the code for the original padlock and had a key made but it did not fit the lock. On a hunch, I copied this key onto a Y52 blank which fit the lock and worked perfectly!
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Re: old Yale padlock with impressioned key

Postby YALESLEVIATHAN » 18 Oct 2013 14:07

Here's a couple of pics of the very old Yale that I got on Ebay(the middle lock). It also came without a key, but as I mentioned in the above post, I got really lucky with an existing key being very close to the pins that I could feel with a high reach hook, soldered it and impressioned it and was amazed when it popped. Notice the solder in the pin 5 position.

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