Found a real cool Yale lock!

[UnlockingBoredom]

I was at the swap meet and saw this cool Yale lock, it was $8.00 and with no key thats hard for me to do with the little money I get. I thought the wife would like it so I bought it with the idea I will make a key for it.



I tried for days to get the pins to bind... thinking that the plug was frozen I sprayed WD40 in it to see if it would unfreeze. After 2 days sitting there I tried again... no luck! Well today I was playing around with it again and found that you have to pull up on the shackle and apply tension to make the pins bind... I am in the process of figuring out how to grow a 3rd limb so I can impression this lock...lol

Here is the keyway (it uses a flat key)


When I get the key done (if I can do it) I want the top of the key to match the symbol on the lock.


Anyone know anything about this lock? when it was made?

Thanks,

[kwoswalt99-]

Hi,
I don't know exactly when they were made, but I think early 1900's. I made a key for one by picking it then disassembling it. Lauren did the same thing http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=48948&hilit=padlock+restoration&start=150

[GWiens2001]

You can also shim the shear line on that lock.

That is what we call a PKPT (Push Key Pin Tumbler lock. Designed in the mid to late 1800's, they were produced IIRC until the 1920's.

They can also have serrated pins and spool pins.

Gordon

[UnlockingBoredom]

Thanks guys! I came back to read before bed and noticed your posts... I shimmed it open in about 30 seconds! now why didnt I think of that? LOL

Now I have to find some good material to use as a key, or find a flat blank that I can use. The wife is very happy now that I will be able to make a key to fit it. She said she is going to make a shadow box to display it.

[cheerIO]

My contribution:
http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=59193&p=434654#p434548

The 805F was my first "cool old" lock.

[MacGnG1]

what are the numbers on the face of the plug, it looks like a blind code... i can look it up for you.

[kwoswalt99-]

When I made a key for mine, it looked like it was in good shape, but it frozen up severely. I soaked it in penetrating oil for a week, but that didn't work, I also tried other chemicals, but they didn't work either. I eventually had to resort to other methods to free up the cylinder. Of course it wasn't shim-able even after I freed it up. Is shimming considered a bypass?

[UnlockingBoredom]

what are the numbers on the face of the plug, it looks like a blind code... i can look it up for you.

It says U1614

[jeffmoss26]

I ran that code through Instacode just now and nothing came up.

[MacGnG1]

what are the numbers on the face of the plug, it looks like a blind code... i can look it up for you.

It says U1614

i don't get anything for that, but 5 and 6 pin series come up for 01614 however.

[UnlockingBoredom]

Oh well.... It is definately a U 1614

I guess I will continue looking for a factory blank in brass, I saw one on ebay but it was with 1000 other keys and the guy said it was part of all the other keys so he wont sell it alone.

[GWiens2001]

Go to a local locksmith. He should have blanks for a safe deposit lock. You can cut it to the proper shape, and you are set!

Gordon

[Yoder]

I have that exact same lock! It's one of only two locks I own that has never been picked. I've never been able to get anything to bind. Maybe I can loop the shackle over something and pull while I pick it.

[GWiens2001]

I have that exact same lock! It's one of only two locks I own that has never been picked. I've never been able to get anything to bind. Maybe I can loop the shackle over something and pull while I pick it.

That or wrap the shackle in cloth and hold it in a vise. Use something to pry up gently on the lock body as you pick it.

Also be aware that some of these have serrated pins and true mushroom pins.

Gordon