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B&O RR Lock...need the key!

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B&O RR Lock...need the key!

Postby emt1581 » 29 Aug 2022 14:15

Last week I found an old B&O RR lock in a coffee can with a bunch of old Yale and then some generic padlocks. It came from a deceased neighbors trash pile. I got a bunch of perfectly useable tools and then all these locks. It's a very odd and angled keyway but still seems to be a VERY good lock even by today's standards! Bosnian Bill had to essentially make a duplicate key just to pick one due to the stout springs and complexity of the mechanism so I'm not going to even attempt to pick it!

I think I may have found the key but I'd greatly appreciate if someone with experience could weigh in and confirm the lock/key are a match OR link me to the correct key (preferable for sale) that I need.

Here's a pic of the keyway....

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Here is the key I THINK I need...

https://www.tigerlillyshop.com/imported-products-4/p/railroad-key-chain-bronze-key-ring-bampo-railroad

Only last question.....any clue what the chain on the bottom and hasp/bracket on top were used for? I'm genuinely curious!

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Thanks!!
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Re: B&O RR Lock...need the key!

Postby GWiens2001 » 29 Aug 2022 18:03

That key does look correct to the lock.

Congrats on the great lock finds!

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Re: B&O RR Lock...need the key!

Postby billdeserthills » 30 Aug 2022 12:08

The key shown looks like it is opposite for your lock, I don't think it will even enter your keyway
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Re: B&O RR Lock...need the key!

Postby emt1581 » 30 Aug 2022 21:23

billdeserthills wrote:The key shown looks like it is opposite for your lock, I don't think it will even enter your keyway


Opposite? How so? The bitting (sp?) looks to angle to the left, and looking at the lock, the keyhole angles to the left. What are you seeing that's "opposite"?

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Re: B&O RR Lock...need the key!

Postby emt1581 » 30 Aug 2022 21:25

GWiens2001 wrote:That key does look correct to the lock.

Congrats on the great lock finds!

Gordon


I was thinking of just tossing the Yales. Any reason to keep them?

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Re: B&O RR Lock...need the key!

Postby billdeserthills » 30 Aug 2022 23:03

emt1581 wrote:
billdeserthills wrote:The key shown looks like it is opposite for your lock, I don't think it will even enter your keyway


Opposite? How so? The bitting (sp?) looks to angle to the left, and looking at the lock, the keyhole angles to the left. What are you seeing that's "opposite"?

Thanks



I guess you are correct, I shoulda looked at the second picture
I shoulda known that Gordon wouldn't have made such an error
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Re: B&O RR Lock...need the key!

Postby GWiens2001 » 30 Aug 2022 23:13

They do have some collector's value (not a great deal, but some). The two with flattened shackles are called Push Key Pin Tumbler padlocks, and IIRC, they are the second version of pin tumbler padlock. The first, also designed by Linus Yale Jr, looks different.

Here is a post on disassembly of the Yale PKPT padlocks

Use a plug follower when you remove the shackle, or you will need to re-load the springs and driver pins.

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Re: B&O RR Lock...need the key!

Postby GWiens2001 » 30 Aug 2022 23:15

billdeserthills wrote:
emt1581 wrote:
billdeserthills wrote:The key shown looks like it is opposite for your lock, I don't think it will even enter your keyway


Opposite? How so? The bitting (sp?) looks to angle to the left, and looking at the lock, the keyhole angles to the left. What are you seeing that's "opposite"?

Thanks



I guess you are correct, I shoulda looked at the second picture
I shoulda known the Gordon wouldn't have made such an error



True. My errors are typically more glaring in hindsight. ;)

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