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Noob questions: Antique coin op items need lock info and hel

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Noob questions: Antique coin op items need lock info and hel

Postby a_gunslinger » 21 Dec 2015 20:09

I guess Im going to try this lock picking hobby, sound fun. My original needs are to gain access to the antique coin op and vending machines I seem to acquire. Any information and startr advice on these locks would be appreciated. Ive got a Tom's Peanut Machine, a Rockola machine and a [yep] a Condom machine:

Toms Peanut Machine
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Rockola machine
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Condom machine
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Thanks everyone!
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Re: Noob questions: Antique coin op items need lock info and

Postby GWiens2001 » 21 Dec 2015 21:51

The first one is probably just a double-sided wafer lock, though the keyway looks like an Ingersoll. Really doubt it is an Ingersoll, though.

The second one is probably another double sided wafer lock, though it could be more of a Chicago style lock.

The third one has no picture of the keyway.

That said, a locksmith should be able to make a key easily enough. Love the peanut machine!

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Re: Noob questions: Antique coin op items need lock info and

Postby Squelchtone » 21 Dec 2015 21:58

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Re: Noob questions: Antique coin op items need lock info and

Postby kwoswalt99- » 21 Dec 2015 21:59

GWiens2001 wrote:The first one is probably just a double-sided wafer lock, though the keyway looks like an Ingersoll. Really doubt it is an Ingersoll, though.
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The first is a Chicago as well. I have a couple padlocks with that keyway.
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Re: Noob questions: Antique coin op items need lock info and

Postby billdeserthills » 21 Dec 2015 22:05

The condom machine looks the easiest to open without double-sided picks
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Re: Noob questions: Antique coin op items need lock info and

Postby GWiens2001 » 21 Dec 2015 23:19

billdeserthills wrote:The condom machine looks the easiest to open without double-sided picks


Don't let it fool you... it may have some sort of 'extra protection' inside. :mrgreen:

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Re: Noob questions: Antique coin op items need lock info and

Postby Evan » 22 Dec 2015 0:23

Peanut machine is definitely a Chicago Lock.

The Second one looks more like an Illinois lock to me than a Chicago.

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Re: Noob questions: Antique coin op items need lock info and

Postby zeke79 » 22 Dec 2015 9:11

GWiens2001 wrote:
billdeserthills wrote:The condom machine looks the easiest to open without double-sided picks


Don't let it fool you... it may have some sort of 'extra protection' inside. :mrgreen:

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Re: Noob questions: Antique coin op items need lock info and

Postby a_gunslinger » 22 Dec 2015 11:02

GWiens2001 wrote:
billdeserthills wrote:The condom machine looks the easiest to open without double-sided picks


Don't let it fool you... it may have some sort of 'extra protection' inside. :mrgreen:

Gordon


Nicely done!
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Re: Noob questions: Antique coin op items need lock info and

Postby a_gunslinger » 22 Dec 2015 11:09

sorry, here is the correct picture for the condom machine lock:

Also, for these TYPES of locks for the kind of stuff I usually see is there a preferred picking set that would meet most of my needs?

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Re: Noob questions: Antique coin op items need lock info and

Postby kwoswalt99- » 22 Dec 2015 11:29

Ah, my suspicion was confirmed! That's a lever lock on your machine. A standard pickset likely won't be helpful with that one. It's probably easier to impression anyway.
For the rest of them, a standard pickset will work just fine. Supposedly the ball, half ball, and snowman picks are good for raking wafer locks. The snowman is a little too wide for my taste, and especially doesn't fit well in that Chicago keyway. I spp them with a hook just like a pin tumbler lock. There are tons of threads on what pickset to buy, and one is going on right now.
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Re: Noob questions: Antique coin op items need lock info and

Postby GWiens2001 » 22 Dec 2015 22:01

Like the half diamond for wafer locks, since I can get a bit more precise with a specific wafer if needed. The double sided wafer locks should open easily enough, just flip the pick over every few seconds and pick the other side without losing tension.

The lever lock will be easier to impression, just as kwoswalt99 said. You can find some threads here on impressioning a lever lock here on LP101. It is typically not that difficult, especially with a lock like that.

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Re: Noob questions: Antique coin op items need lock info and

Postby a_gunslinger » 30 Dec 2015 21:24

Thanks for all the input. Got the Rockola and Toms Peanut machine locks to open with just a basic beginer Mazu set. Still need to do the Condom machine ;^)
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Re: Noob questions: Antique coin op items need lock info and

Postby kwoswalt99- » 3 Jan 2016 11:25

Glad to hear you got them open. Had to google Mazu. :lol:
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Re: Noob questions: Antique coin op items need lock info and

Postby legendre » 14 Mar 2016 3:30

"SOLD FOR THE EASE ONLY" .. LoL, classic!

Right up there with "PUSH butt - RUB HANDS UNDER ARM".. etc..
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