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Need help opening old trunk

Need help fixing or installing a lock? We welcome questions from the public here! Sorry, no automotive questions, please.
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Need help opening old trunk

Postby Bob23Lite » 18 Sep 2016 19:28

Hello,

I'm pretty new to lock picking, and I've searched through the forums, tried some suggestions, but I am still unable to open the trunk. So I thought it was time for me to post on here and see if you guys could help me out!

I'm trying to get this old trunk open without damaging it. I suppose buying a key could work, but I'd prefer to get it open myself. Also, as for making keys, I do not know how to do that.

Attached you will find pictures of my tools, and some of the lock / trunk. If you need more pictures please let me know and I can upload some extra ones.

http://imgur.com/a/f4eYP

Looking forward to hearing from you guys,

Thanks!
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Re: Need help opening old trunk

Postby ltdbjd » 18 Sep 2016 19:51

Sorry, I'm afraid it's not that easy. We can't just "tell" you how to open it.

You have to learn, study, practice, then learn, study pracjtice some more; then repeat at least a couple hundred times. Then you start over again.

I hate to say it, but you have some odd tools. The half snowman, the thing that looks like a broken extractor, the thing hat looks like it went through a ravioli maker, both tension wrenches, hollow diamond, no rakes, etc. Can I ask where you got the kit?

Going back to what I first said, I'd recommend you learn about locks, lock picking, and lock picks first. If you search the forum, you'll find countless resources. That way you can purchase a decent set of picks because you'll be more knowledgable when you make the purchase. Though having good tools won't make you a good picker, but poor tools can hamper your progress.
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Re: Need help opening old trunk

Postby Squelchtone » 18 Sep 2016 20:55

Throw away that piece of junk GOSO pickset. Not a good set for learning this hobby. Half the picks in it are for car doors anyways. Get a Southord set from our sponsor Lockpickshop.com or from Southord's Amazon store.

There is a great site for buying replacement trunk keys
Try here http://antiquekeys.net

Also, moving this thread to "This Old Lock"

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Re: Need help opening old trunk

Postby ltdbjd » 18 Sep 2016 21:06

Ahh. I've heard of GOSO picks, and heard that they were junk, but I've never actually seen a set. Now I know why everybody bags on them. It's well deserved.
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Re: Need help opening old trunk

Postby mseifert » 18 Sep 2016 21:08

If you are trying to learn this is not the place to start.. Best advice, buy a training kit from the forum sponsor... And contact a local locksmith about the truck

https://www.lockpickshop.com/LP-KIT-1.html
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Re: Need help opening old trunk

Postby Bob23Lite » 19 Sep 2016 7:08

I wasn't expecting you to "tell" me how to do it. I was simply looking for some guidance. That's the set I bought, it had good reviews so I thought it would be a decent one to start with. Clearly I was wrong.

Thanks for the advice/links to a better set and replacement keys.
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Re: Need help opening old trunk

Postby mseifert » 19 Sep 2016 7:29

Bob23Lite wrote:I wasn't expecting you to "tell" me how to do it. I was simply looking for some guidance. That's the set I bought, it had good reviews so I thought it would be a decent one to start with. Clearly I was wrong.

Thanks for the advice/links to a better set and replacement keys.


the set will work.. Hell a couple of paperclips will work .. The GOSO set is just not the best or even a good option ... Other than directing you to the trunk key website.. When your first post is a version of "How can I open this...." you are not going to get a lot of help... We see a lot of people who are looking for information so they can do bad things .. If you are truly interested in the sport.. Hang around.. Search the threads... Ask new questions .. but a productive member .. and the information will come to you ..
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Re: Need help opening old trunk

Postby Bob23Lite » 19 Sep 2016 7:50

That's true, I could see why you would be hesitant as I did not provide that many details. The trunk is my girlfriends and it's a family heirloom of theirs(she's got it filled with her boots). Well I've been trying to learn more about lock picking, since I find it to be a pretty unique skill, but it seems this lock might be a little out of my league right now lol

I'll just have to keep learning and see what happens. Maybe in the meantime I'll just buy a new key for her so that she can get it open at least.
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Re: Need help opening old trunk

Postby ltdbjd » 19 Sep 2016 8:25

Just to clarify my post a bit, it wasn't intended to be a knock. If you had some experience, a question as to whether a 45 degree nose pick hook would be better than a standard butt scratch rake would be an easier question to answer. But without that experience, it's difficult to explain how to pick a lock. We can explain the mechanics of it, but without
doing it over and over, you won't have much success. As for the the mechanics, there are hundreds of books, web pages and YouTube videos on how to do it. Trying to explain it in a post doesn't do the subject justice.

To start out, I always recommend people read the MIT Guide to Lockpicking (it's a free download on line, just Google it, and buy a copy of Practical Lock Picking by Deviant Ollam. Ollam goes into significant detail, including a step-by-step process for learning. Once you have those, a decent set of lock picks and progressively pinned locks or a practice lock you can swap pins, you're set up for a good start.
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Re: Need help opening old trunk

Postby Bob23Lite » 19 Sep 2016 13:00

Squelchtone wrote:Throw away that piece of junk GOSO pickset. Not a good set for learning this hobby. Half the picks in it are for car doors anyways. Get a Southord set from our sponsor Lockpickshop.com or from Southord's Amazon store.

There is a great site for buying replacement trunk keys
Try here http://antiquekeys.net

Also, moving this thread to "This Old Lock"

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I'm going to follow your recommendation to get a Southord set from the website. I'm leaning towards a 5pc set that comes with a training book, but I wanted to hear if your guys' thoughts on if this is the right one to start with. Or if I should get the best selling 14 pc set instead(while using online resources to learn such as Itdbjd's suggestions). I'm thinking the 5pc will force me to learn more about each one, and that way I can eventually progress to more. The only reason I thought about the 14pc is because I'm not sure which picks are used first/better to learn with, etc.

A quick question about the lock on the trunk though: It looks like it's labeled on the front T46(I will have to look closer at home), this would be the numbered key I would need, correct?
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Re: Need help opening old trunk

Postby kwoswalt99- » 19 Sep 2016 13:42

Bob23Lite wrote:A quick question about the lock on the trunk though: It looks like it's labeled on the front T46(I will have to look closer at home), this would be the numbered key I would need, correct?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/3816817129 ... noapp=true
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Re: Need help opening old trunk

Postby Divinorum » 19 Sep 2016 13:45

For the extra $11 I would get the 14 piece set. Plus you are eligible to receive a 10% discount with the forum code. Spend a bit more it's worth it for the extra pieces. The extra rakes are very handy and the high reach hook could help reach pins the normal hook can't. The book is not going to teach you anything you can't learn from the guides and tutorials posted on the forum. I would put my money on the forum guides being better than that book.

The T46 on the face of the lock could be a key number but no guarantees. If you can find a key from the mentioned website (i have ordered from them +1 for the recommendation) and it looks like it will fit, it may be worth a shot if you don't mind spending the $. That T46 could also be some manufacture specific stamp that is useless to you. My 2 cents, good luck.

Edit: kwoswalt99- has made a good recommendation above. Looks like it could be a match for the picture you posted.
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Re: Need help opening old trunk

Postby ltdbjd » 19 Sep 2016 14:47

I'd go with the bigger set too, it will be worth it.

As for on-line resources, there are zillions. BosnianBill has an excellent set of videos for learning how to pick. Schuyler Towne, Barry Wels, Devian Ollam all have good stuff on YouTube. There are a lot of other people, but these should get you going.
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Re: Need help opening old trunk

Postby mseifert » 19 Sep 2016 15:19

ltdbjd wrote:I'd go with the bigger set too, it will be worth it.

As for on-line resources, there are zillions. BosnianBill has an excellent set of videos for learning how to pick. Schuyler Towne, Barry Wels, Devian Ollam all have good stuff on YouTube. There are a lot of other people, but these should get you going.


Not sure I agree with a big set of lockpicks.. I think you should start small, hooks and rakes and move up as you need other picks .. I have several picks that came with bigger kits that I never touch..

And all the above mentioned people are a good source of info on picking..
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Re: Need help opening old trunk

Postby ltdbjd » 19 Sep 2016 19:30

You raise a good point. When it comes to lock pick sets, "bigger" tends to mean "more of the same." Meaning a 32 piece set typically just has two of the same tools the 16 piece set has. The 64 piece set triple the 16 piece. If you look at the catalog pictures, sellers try to mask that fact by putting the picks in different locations or flip it over to show a mirror image in the pouch.

In this particular case, by bigger set, I meant the 14 piece set the OP mentioned vs the 5 piece he/she was thinking about. The 14 piece gives you a couple different hooks, rakes and tension tools.
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