cogwheel cylinder lock does not fit in door

[femurat]

i purchased a cogwheel cylinder lock online to replace the damaged 'euro-profile' cylinder lock that was damaged during a previous break-in attempt.
however i'm unable to slide the cylinder lock into the hole of my door, because the cogwheel sticks out and gets in the way; this prevents the whole cylinder from being slotted into the door properly. thus i am unable to install the lock.



*the image shown above is the exact cylinder lock and door handle that i have, since my old sony ericcson phone takes poor, grainy quality photo and i don't have a camera or smartphone.

i tried looking online for instructions on how to install a cogwheel cylinder but could not find anything. the local locksmiths refuses to install it for us saying that they've never installed cogwheel cylinders before and told me that i'm on my own and even berates me for buying non-euro profile lock cylinder.

only less than a month remain before the refund deadline for the $200usd cogwheel cylinder, and so i'd like to know if its possible or not to install a cogwheel cylinder in my door. if there is indeed a way to install this lock, would it be possible to teach me how to install it?

thank you so much for helping me with this, i am truly grateful!

[femurat]

You could replace the cam of your cylinder, but since you can still get a refund, don't touch it. I suggest you get a refund for that cylinder and buy one with a standard cam that fits your lock.

Good luck

[Squelchtone]

Does the original cylinder which was damaged in the break in have a cog on it? and how do you know it is a cog if it is inside the door? is it visible, or was it somehow ripped out of the door?

What is your geographical area so we know what kind of door hardware is common to you? cog wheel MulTLock are popular in Israel on multi point locks, not so much in New York City doors.

a real photo of your situation would really really help, find a friend or neighbor with an iphone who can take photo of the edge of your door.


Here is a video explaining cog wheel profile cylinders, Rav-Bariach and Mul-T-Lock, and you'll see how the lock case has a huge hole for the cog wheel to slide right in and out, unlike a europrofile cylinder where you have the cam/flipper that can "hide" within the profile if you turn the key, in order to slide out of the door lock case:


Squelchtone

[blueagent]

Does the original cylinder which was damaged in the break in have a cog on it? and how do you know it is a cog if it is inside the door? is it visible, or was it somehow ripped out of the door?

What is your geographical area so we know what kind of door hardware is common to you? cog wheel MulTLock are popular in Israel on multi point locks, not so much in New York City doors.

a real photo of your situation would really really help, find a friend or neighbor with an iphone who can take photo of the edge of your door.


Here is a video explaining cog wheel profile cylinders, Rav-Bariach and Mul-T-Lock, and you'll see how the lock case has a huge hole for the cog wheel to slide right in and out, unlike a europrofile cylinder where you have the cam/flipper that can "hide" within the profile if you turn the key, in order to slide out of the door lock case:


Squelchtone

the original damaged cylinder did not have a cogwheel in it. it was an old 'euro profile' cylinder with a thumbturn, i installed it myself many years ago. i should probably ask my friends or old classmates to help me with the photos but they repeatably made fun of me for not having a smartphone before so i don't want to give them the satisfaction that they were right. i'll go shop around for a cheap camera later, maybe.

thanks for providing the video, i didn't know that the cogwheel is called a "cog actuator" so it was nigh impossible for me find the right tutorial. it looks like i'll have to take my whole door apart to get to that metallic chasm thing, i'll give it a try and see what happens, if i can't get it to work it might be time to send the cogwheel cylinder back to the seller for a refund. i was hesitant to do this because sometimes my return parcel would get lost in transit, upon which paypal would then refuse to grant me a refund. this has happened a few times before but i supposed if i can't get the lock to install then i should just return it.

thank you so much everyone for all your help!

[Squelchtone]

if you undo the set screw on the side of your door, can you just slide out your old (burglarized) profile cylinder using the key to turn it so the cam/flipper isnt blocking it from sliding out?

I think you need to get a profile cylinder with a regular cam, I dont think your lock case can support a cog wheel. was there something that prompted you to buy the cog wheel version? just curious.

Here is a cylinder that should work for you, please make sure to measure distance in mm from center hole to end of lock, this will depend on how thick your door is. Seller has several lengths of cylinders to choose from here https://www.amazon.com/MUL-T-LOCK-High- ... B01I8IR9OA

see video of normal euro profile removal / installation


hope this helps,
Squelchtone

[blueagent]

if you undo the set screw on the side of your door, can you just slide out your old (burglarized) profile cylinder using the key to turn it so the cam/flipper isnt blocking it from sliding out?

I think you need to get a profile cylinder with a regular cam, I dont think your lock case can support a cog wheel. was there something that prompted you to buy the cog wheel version? just curious.

Here is a cylinder that should work for you, please make sure to measure distance in mm from center hole to end of lock, this will depend on how thick your door is. Seller has several lengths of cylinders to choose from here https://www.amazon.com/MUL-T-LOCK-High- ... B01I8IR9OA

see video of normal euro profile removal / installation


hope this helps,
Squelchtone

well i ended up unscrewing the door handle to see if i could fit it in that way. it turns out that even with the handle removed, the cylinder hole on the wooden front door was still too small for the cogwheel to fit through, so it seems there is no way for me to install a cogwheel cylinder afterall, unless i get a new door and whatnot. oh well....time to send it back for a refund i supposed, i hope it doesn't get lost in transit again like last time.

the reason i purchased this particular one was because the seller had listed it as a "euro profile MUL-T-LOCK cogwheel cylinder lock", and when i saw the 'euro profile' in the listing description, i bought it without a second thought, even after i noticed the cogwheel i didn't think it would matter because a euro profile is just a euro profile so it shouldn't have any problems.

thanks so much for the tutorial videos and instructions Squelchtone, i'm very grateful for all your help. thanks again!

[locking bad]

Very interesting video!i did not know the story of mul t lock and honestly in the past 2 months i bought 3 mul t lock from an israelian seller and i thought that they were chinese clone now i know they're not

[billdeserthills]

It's interesting how paying a locksmith can actually save money over learning how to do things the hard way, sometimes

[GWiens2001]

It's interesting how paying a locksmith can actually save money over learning how to do things the hard way, sometimes

Very true. Especially when the security of your family and belongings are at stake.

Gordon