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Gardall depository safes. No combinations.

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Gardall depository safes. No combinations.

Postby smockstack » 13 Feb 2018 9:46

I picked up two of these at a local auction for cheap because they don't have the combinations. My local locksmith wants 40 apiece for the factory combinations but There is no guarantee that they haven't been changed. Looking for any other alternatives and also wondering if there is a market for resale for such a thing if I do spend the money or if people buy small deposit safes with no combinations? Just spitballing here. Thanks for any responses.

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Re: Gardall depository safes. No combinations.

Postby femurat » 13 Feb 2018 11:06

I'd buy one without a combination, because I'm quite confident I could manipulate it open. I do it for fun and enjoy spending a couple hours manipulating a lock.

If you're trying to make money out of them, it's a different story. How much is worth one of those containers with a working combination? Forget what you paid them and consider only the cost of a safe tech manipulating it open: You're losing money already.

Selling them without a combination to someone that wants to practice manipulation could be your best bet.

Good luck :)
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Re: Gardall depository safes. No combinations.

Postby smockstack » 13 Feb 2018 11:36

Thanks! Maybe I'll just stick them on Ebay for the heck of it and see what happens. Does it make it easier to open if there are bolt holes in the bottom? can someone feed a fiberoptic camera into it and see the lock mechanism?
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Re: Gardall depository safes. No combinations.

Postby Squelchtone » 13 Feb 2018 13:05

smockstack wrote:Thanks! Maybe I'll just stick them on Ebay for the heck of it and see what happens. Does it make it easier to open if there are bolt holes in the bottom? can someone feed a fiberoptic camera into it and see the lock mechanism?


100% YES. You look at the wheels turning in the "Change Key Hole" and at the same time turn the dial. It takes a bit of time though, and you have to understand the idea of transferring if you only look for the gates in the change key hole versus the actual change key holes on each wheel. Some safes like this one may have a very hard to get off sticker over the change key hole, and you want to peel it off using something long and sharp, but you dont want to crumple the sticker or puncture it into the change key hole, that will make things difficult to see.

Someone had a bunch of safes like these on ebay for like $30 bucks each +shipping since they're heavy (they were Mosler not Gardall) and a bunch of us here bought at least one, they're fun for safe cracking practice. I think mine included the combo, but I purposely threw it out. Here's what we all bought: https://www.ebay.com/itm/192446473194
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Re: Gardall depository safes. No combinations.

Postby MartinHewitt » 13 Feb 2018 17:52

I like small safes as a practice lock mount. So for me "magic module format" is an incentive to buy one. (But not yours due to over-oceans shipping.)
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