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Eagle combo 12” safe help

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Eagle combo 12” safe help

Postby Dirtinla » 17 Jun 2022 4:37

Have a 1800 circa safe

Wanting to learn about this lock please

Looking for a Tutorial or advice

Order of putting parts together

Setting the combination I want.

Order in which to turn dial. Way and number etc.

I am a hobiest assisting a girlfriend.

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Thanx in advance
Fred
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Re: Eagle combo 12” safe help

Postby bitbuster » 17 Jun 2022 9:00

Nice little Eagle lock. Can't think of lock # offhand but I have that lock in my parts bucket.
"I dream of a world where, chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned". Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Re: Eagle combo 12” safe help

Postby MartinHewitt » 17 Jun 2022 17:38

Hi, I don't know this lock, so I can give you only general answers...

The lock appears to be a "front driver"/"front drive cam", i.e. the solid disk coupling with the dial is in the front when looking from outside the safe. The code wheels are the disks with the many holes in them. Then there are smaller parts with a big hole, that have one or two hooks. The code wheel together with one of these parts makes up a coded wheel. The position where the hook is going through one of the many hole is determining the combination of that wheel. The part with the two hooks is for the wheel next do the drive cam and the part with one hook for the other wheel. The drive cam has a pin poking out. This one is catching a hook and moves the next wheel. The second hook will catch the hook of the most distant wheel to move that. I assume the hook parts should be behind their wheel (when looking from outside the safe). If the part with the two hooks has hooks of different length, then I would put the longer one pointing towards the driver and through the hole of the wheel. Then there are rings with noses on the inside. You do show them together with the wheels, but they should be separate parts. The prevent that one disk moves the next just by friction. So there should be one between driver and wheel and between the wheels.

To set the combo you assemble the lock with the hooks going through some random holes. Then you look through the second biggest hole in the rear of the lock case. Turning the dial clockwise/right (when looking again from the front) you wait until the rectangular cut-out of of the rearmost wheel is at this hole and under the long pin, which should be visible there. Look which number is at the index on the dial. That is the first number of the combo. Then turn ccw/left until the same happens with the other wheel. Again note the number on the index, which is the second number of the combo. Finally turn cw/right until the lock opens and the dial stops. There are 25 holes per wheel, so you can set only 25 numbers even so there are 50 on the dial. If you don't like the combo move the hooks around the wheel.
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Re: Eagle combo 12” safe help ***FIXED***

Postby Dirtinla » 17 Jun 2022 20:31

Sir you were on the money!

Works perfectly now... I didn't bother figuring the code for wheels.
I just accepted the combination where it fell.

For others: left 4 to 6 times once closed to clear combo
Right 4 to 6 times to the first number
(which is the drive cam wheel)
left pass your 2nd number one time
then stop at your 2nd number
then rt to the last number which will
open the lock and stop

Once again thank you!!!
-=Fred=-
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Re: Eagle combo 12” safe help

Postby Dirtinla » 18 Jun 2022 18:04

BTW if anyone knows how to set a coded wheel combination please let us know...

Thanx as always

-=Fred=-
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Re: Eagle combo 12” safe help

Postby stratmando » 22 Jun 2022 6:27

Just to add, you might try setting combo even if 1 number off, then try dialing your desired combo, could be +/- one or two digits.
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