1975 Mosler Round-Door Safe

[Montcal]

Hello,
My name is Steven, and I live in Arizona.

Yes, I bought this safe on Craigslist for $200, intending to use it in my storage building for stuff. But it’s SO heavy that there’s no way I can move it to get it through the door. Really, might should not have gotten it, as it’s overkill.

So, going to sell it on Ebay? Would like to know:

1. Fire Rating
2. Tool Rating
3. Value, as in how much to list it for

The dimensions of the safe are:
Width=20-3/4 inches
Height from floor to top edge=20 inches
Depth from front to back=18 inches

Serial Number: 24254-27 (from your chart it seems to be from 1975)
On the UL label it has: BP-280, Plant 2, No. A344791

Thank you SO much for whatever information you might have, and the time you may take to convey it. I really appreciate it.

Steven

Here are pics:

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[98G]

Hello,
My name is Steven, and I live in Arizona.

Yes, I bought this safe on Craigslist for $200, intending to use it in my storage building for stuff. But it’s SO heavy that there’s no way I can move it to get it through the door. Really, might should not have gotten it, as it’s overkill.

So, going to sell it on Ebay? Would like to know:

1. Fire Rating
2. Tool Rating
3. Value, as in how much to list it for

The dimensions of the safe are:
Width=20-3/4 inches
Height from floor to top edge=20 inches
Depth from front to back=18 inches

Serial Number: 24254-27 (from your chart it seems to be from 1975)
On the UL label it has: BP-280, Plant 2, No. A344791

Thank you SO much for whatever information you might have, and the time you may take to convey it. I really appreciate it.

Steven

Here are pics:

https://tinypic.host/image/IMG-0816.De42nz
https://tinypic.host/image/IMG-0817.De4GY4
https://tinypic.host/image/IMG-0818.De4Ci2
https://tinypic.host/image/IMG-0819.De4g5x
https://tinypic.host/image/IMG-0820.De4hSM
https://tinypic.host/image/IMG-0821.De4i4k
https://tinypic.host/image/IMG-0822.De4vxO
https://tinypic.host/image/IMG-0823.De4Rrm
https://tinypic.host/image/IMG-0824.De4jHv
https://tinypic.host/image/IMG-0825.De4uid
https://tinypic.host/image/IMG-0826.De4Pda
https://tinypic.host/image/IMG-0827.De49CE
https://tinypic.host/image/IMG-0815.De4SU5

I've got that same model of safe. They are truly unreasonably heavy for their size. Mine has a Group 1R Mosler lock in it. Presumably yours does as well.

My understanding is that these don't have a fire rating, being just solid blocks of steel.

The BP280 burglary rating is based on the construction and not based on a timed tool test.

Your potential buyer is either a safe enthusiast, or someone who wants to store a handgun **securely** and knows enough to differentiate a real safe from a 'gun safe'. Potentially you might find a cash business wanting something like that.

The $200 you paid for it is what you could reasonably expect to get from craiglist or Facebook. You may get $500 if you hold out for the guy who knows the difference between a Residental Security Container and a real safe, and who doesn't mind the weight.

These are my observations as a hobbiest who dabbles in buying and selling them.

[bitbuster]

Gee, I wonder if there's a guy in the Oro Valley area that would be interested in your safe. After all, it's not a Sentry.

[MartinHewitt]

This is a Mosler new style lug door safe. The UL label is not a burglary rating. It is just a confirmation that a relocking device is installed inside the safe's door. Other safes of this style come with mercantile, SNMA and UL burglary ratings. The TRTL-30 rated are a pain to open. I am sure Mosler left out some parts as it doesn't have rating, but even normal steel an a thinner Relsom hard plate is night and day compared to a residential security container.

[98G]

This is a Mosler new style lug door safe. The UL label is not a burglary rating. It is just a confirmation that a relocking device is installed inside the safe's door. Other safes of this style come with mercantile, SNMA and UL burglary ratings. The TRTL-30 rated are a pain to open. I am sure Mosler left out some parts as it doesn't have rating, but even normal steel an a thinner Relsom hard plate is night and day compared to a residential security container.

Do these have relsom plate in them? (Tungsten carbide chips in a steel matrix = bit breaker)

[MartinHewitt]

The TRTL-30 new style lug door safes did have Relsom. This ... no idea.