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Busted my Cherry on a Meilink Class C

Forgot how to dial the combination on that old safe? Think you got the right numbers but the handle is stuck? What safe should you buy? Ask your safe questions here!
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Busted my Cherry on a Meilink Class C

Postby Kontoboy » 1 Jun 2015 9:40

My first post. A couple of months ago my wife and out were out for a walk when I noticed an old Meilink safe sitting curbside for trash collection. Later that evening in a heavy rain my son and I wrestled in through the mud and up in to my van, rain water pouring out the safe door as we did. Once home we wrestled it into the garage and that's when my obsession started. A little on-line research let me to Matt Blaze's Safecracking for the Computer Scientist [EDIT: removed link with Advanced info, PM sent to OP explaining current forum rules] and I go started with my first manipulation.

After a little practice it was pretty easy to identify the contact points and I methodically started mapping them out. I ran into some inexplicable irregularities (for a newbie at least) of areas where the contact points increased dramatically--almost disappearing to the touch--and multiple areas where the the points would narrow. By being very deliberate--identifying the correct wheel, going back and remapping after a new low point/gate was found, I thought I had the three numbers that would open the safe. Only they didn't, and no amount of further checking was narrowing my contacts points. I was stumped.

Over the next few weeks I tried again and again, used a shop stethescope (not much use) and rechecked my work over and over. Nothing. I was getting ready to drill.

Then by chance I discovered that if I jiggled the handle when testing the numbers the contact points would narrow. A-ha! I rechecked my first wheel, jiggling the handle each time, and my gate number remained the same. Checking the second wheel, what I though was the correct gate number no longer was. Starting at zero I progressed around the dial in 2 number increments until I hit 90 and--click--it opened. My cherry was busted!

The inside revealed a wet and musty smelling mess of papers bound by tape. Inside the damp mess was a small collection of mint proofs and a couple Eisenhower silver dollars--total value less than $100, but still exciting none the less.

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The backplate revealed it was a class C with a tamper resistance mechanism. And pulling the plate off the back of the lock revealed three plastic wheels. Except for the gate at 90 (actually it was 91), my maniplulation had me spot on for one number and off by 1 for the other.

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I'm cleaning up the safe now by sanding off the surface rust and repainting. I have other safes but this will be a good one to keep in the garage (if is very heavy) to store ammo and such.

Now I find myself scanning ads for other safes with "No combination" to work on.

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Re: Busted my Cherry on a Meilink Class C

Postby zeke79 » 1 Jun 2015 10:05

Awesome work.
For the best book out there on high security locks and their operation, take a look at amazon.com for High-Security Mechanical Locks An Encyclopedic Reference. Written by our very own site member Greyman! A true 5 Star read!!
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Re: Busted my Cherry on a Meilink Class C

Postby Bluenkight » 1 Jun 2015 11:59

Awesome work Kontoboy... Good luck on your next one. I am sure you will get that open also......
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Re: Busted my Cherry on a Meilink Class C

Postby Squelchtone » 1 Jun 2015 12:27

Nice job, but I would love to see the dial and handle on the outside, post pics if you can.

Thanks!
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Re: Busted my Cherry on a Meilink Class C

Postby bitbuster » 1 Jun 2015 13:05

squelch: the safe is probably similar,except no cam lock, to the one on page 112 , vol 5, of mcomie's safe opening book, which you may have.
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Re: Busted my Cherry on a Meilink Class C

Postby kwoswalt99- » 1 Jun 2015 13:34

Squelchtone wrote:Nice job, but I would love to see the dial and handle on the outside, post pics if you can.

Thanks!
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Why do you like dials so much?
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Re: Busted my Cherry on a Meilink Class C

Postby GWiens2001 » 1 Jun 2015 14:05

The dials help to identify the lock.

Very nice - your first manipulation. Glad you found the patience. You can be proud!

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Re: Busted my Cherry on a Meilink Class C

Postby Kontoboy » 1 Jun 2015 14:08

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Here's a face pic--door is off and on the floor as I paint the safe. It's not much to look at!

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Re: Busted my Cherry on a Meilink Class C

Postby kwoswalt99- » 1 Jun 2015 17:05

GWiens2001 wrote:The dials help to identify the lock.

Very nice - your first manipulation. Glad you found the patience. You can be proud!

Gordon

Well, I asked because I remember him offering to buy dials off people before.
Alas, I have tried and failed even on master combo locks. Still have yet to crack one. Good job, I am jealous of your patience.
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Re: Busted my Cherry on a Meilink Class C

Postby Squelchtone » 1 Jun 2015 17:08

kwoswalt99- wrote:
GWiens2001 wrote:The dials help to identify the lock.

Very nice - your first manipulation. Glad you found the patience. You can be proud!

Gordon

Well, I asked because I remember him offering to buy dials off people before.
Alas, I have tried and failed even on master combo locks. Still have yet to crack one. Good job, I am jealous of your patience.


I don't just want the dials, I also want the locks they are attached to ;-)

you could say it's a safe bet, that I like safe locks.
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Re: Busted my Cherry on a Meilink Class C

Postby kwoswalt99- » 1 Jun 2015 17:15

you could say it's a safe bet

No pun intended right :)
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Re: Busted my Cherry on a Meilink Class C

Postby GWiens2001 » 1 Jun 2015 17:45

Squelchtone wrote:I don't just want the dials, I also want the locks they are attached to ;-)

you could say it's a safe bet, that I like safe locks.
Squelchtone


Sounds like a winning combination. Stay tuned... don't touch that dial! 8)

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