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Safe with Royal Arms escutcheon

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Safe with Royal Arms escutcheon

Postby gabnash » 13 Nov 2020 10:34

I recently moved house and this locked and rusty safe was left in the basement. No signs of a key. There is a hint that the front had a painted design - long since faded away. The only interesting feature is the key escutcheon, which appears to be in the form of the British Royal coat of arms.

Can anyone identify the make and model of this particular safe?

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Re: Safe with Royal Arms escutcheon

Postby Squelchtone » 13 Nov 2020 11:14

Just a helpful note: to display an image the [image] command needs the exact file path to the jpg/gif/png file like this: https://i.imgur.com/FBGzDKc.jpeg

The imgur links above are to an album page on imgur's server that has a single photo embedded in it. I don't like how imgur does that, it gets confusing.

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Re: Safe with Royal Arms escutcheon

Postby Squelchtone » 13 Nov 2020 11:14

You may get a faster answer from this group of Safe collectors on Facebook, there are members there from the UK and USA: https://www.facebook.com/groups/436191493400470/

I believe it to be a Thomas Withers & Sons from West Bromwich England. I am not sure the model of your safe, but they all had interesting names, like "The Sandwell" as well as other model names. Are you just trying to get an idea of what it is worth as an antique in case you were to sell it or trying to get a key made so you can use it or have it as working decoration?

You see the 2 screw holes above the handle? That's where the makers name plate would be affixed.

Here are some photos of a T. Withers & Sons safe from an auction, looks pretty spot on with the handle, the rose around the handle, the hinges, and the location and shape of the key hole cover: https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auct ... c800a69552

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Re: Safe with Royal Arms escutcheon

Postby gabnash » 13 Nov 2020 12:43

I’d just like to open it out of curiosity. I’ll probably just sell it or get someone to take it away - if they can! I don’t imagine it’s worth much.
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