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New to me Old safe

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New to me Old safe

Postby gt350shelb212 » 5 Mar 2023 19:00

Hello all here are some photos of my latest find . Of course there is no known combo . I think i have identified the numbers in the combo . Does anyone know the type of lock from the photos ? type of safe ? I think it is a yale #6 lock .? release handle has 33150 stamped in end. I have been working with 4L 3R 2L right back to 0 no luck so far . any tips are appreciated . I would like to open in a non destructive manner . Over all the safe is in nice original paint / and i would like to use it . Thanks



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Re: New to me Old safe

Postby Squelchtone » 5 Mar 2023 22:18

Based on the long hinges and hinge pivot point location, and distance from dial to handle as well as the L shaped downward facing handle, and that it is a Yale lock, it points in the direction of this being a Victor fire safe.

The lock would be a Yale OC5 or (some resources say it is an OC9, but starting to think this is a misprint) hand change friction fence lock.

I think your lock is going to be 4R-3L-2R-1L till dial stops (not to 0)

Turn dial Right passing first number 3 times, and stop on first number 4th time around.
Turn dial Left passing second number 2 times, and stop on second number 3rd time around
Turn dial Right passing third number 1 time, and stop on third number 2nd time around
Turn dial Left until it stops, this should be around 10 on the dial.
Try the handle

Read this thread, it has links to photos of what your combination wheels and lock body look like: viewtopic.php?f=36&t=65223


I'm curious how you identified the numbers in the combination and wondering if you have past safe experience with manipulating locks?

Thanks,
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Re: New to me Old safe

Postby gt350shelb212 » 6 Mar 2023 7:02

Thanks for the reply , I have collected a few safes thru the years and have usually been able to open them . with the exception of one that someone else had beat door with hammer and the broken concrete inside had jammed the mechanics . all empty of course .

I had mounted a cell phone to the door of the victor with a sound app and graph . and spent few hours listening to lock .

I came up with 13 53 93 which was kinda surprising at 40 numbers apart .

by holding slight tension on release handle the 53 and 93 are very repeatable.

Will try later with above info .
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Re: New to me Old safe

Postby Squelchtone » 6 Mar 2023 10:16

gt350shelb212 wrote:Thanks for the reply , I have collected a few safes thru the years and have usually been able to open them . with the exception of one that someone else had beat door with hammer and the broken concrete inside had jammed the mechanics . all empty of course .

I had mounted a cell phone to the door of the victor with a sound app and graph . and spent few hours listening to lock .

I came up with 13 53 93 which was kinda surprising at 40 numbers apart .

by holding slight tension on release handle the 53 and 93 are very repeatable.

Will try later with above info .



Since the lock in your safe is not a direct entry fence style lock, I am not sure that pressing on the handle will reveal any of the numbers of the combination, since all it does it put pressure down on the side of the bolt, but I'm curious to see what you come up with.

Have you graphed the wheelpack and checked for a contact point?

Looking forward to seeing you open it soon,
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Re: New to me Old safe

Postby gt350shelb212 » 13 Jul 2024 18:43

Well it has been some time but i did manage to open this safe . there was cash inside .!..... .0.10 c LOL . three ring lock mechanism seems to stick so it wont be locked untill it functions correctly.
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Re: New to me Old safe

Postby MartinHewitt » 13 Jul 2024 18:50

Well done! I hope this was a fun journey for you. And thanks for reporting back to us!
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Re: New to me Old safe

Postby Squelchtone » 14 Jul 2024 0:00

Nice! thanks for following up that you got it open!
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