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Lock for Gym Locker. Master 2001? Abloy PL330?

Thinking of upgrading your door security? Getting a better deadbolt or padlock? Getting a new frame or better hinges? Not sure what brand or model to go with for your particular application? Need a recommendation? Feel free to ask for advice here!

Re: Lock for Gym Locker. Master 2001? Abloy PL330?

Postby gg555 » 5 Oct 2014 16:31

somenewguy wrote:OP, I appreciate that you are trying to find out something very specific, but it may be that nobody here has ever compared these two specific locks to each other (The Master 2001 sells for about $20 and the Abloy 330 sells for about $80 in the US [~$60 in Europe] so they are in different price categories). Perhaps you should buy both and attempt to cut them both with the same bolt cutters and/or hacksaw blade and see which one fares best?

Yes, I realize no one may be able to answer my question. I'm just asking. Unfortunately, the test you suggest is a bit expensive for me.
Last edited by gg555 on 5 Oct 2014 16:36, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Lock for Gym Locker. Master 2001? Abloy PL330?

Postby gg555 » 5 Oct 2014 16:35

Evan wrote:So you come to a locksmithing forum and ask questions about strength of materials and metallurgy ?

So what is your actual concern ? How big a set of bolt cutters are required to chop the lock off the locker to steal your stuff ?

If you actually considered the feedback you are getting you should have been able to figure out you are obsessing on an esoteric property of the lock in question which will have zero impact or defense against the most common Modus operandi of thieves within the environment and application you are proposing to use your security device: prying attacks...

So because of whatever personal issues you have with your rigid inflexible routines and inability to use risk reduction behaviors/mitigation techniques you have found yourself fixated on how difficult one lock is to cut versus another... The answer is: with how you want to use your lock the attribute/concern in question is completely irrelevant...

So if you wish to ignore sound security advice that is fine, but your question goes beyond the typical experiences of locksmiths and hobbyists and is now a very specific question about materials science regarding the ultimate tensile strength of the lock components and metallurgy regarding the best alloy to use to construct the components in question... It seems you are asking a question beyond the scope of this forum and not appreciating the knowledge that is being provided to you...

~~ Evan


Evan,

I said I appreciate your point and took it into consideration, but I also have other questions. In response you are rude and engage in personal attacks. You seem to think that your point is the only point and I just disagree with that, which should be fine.

I did not assume people would have an answer to my question. I merely thought someone might. Frankly, there is a lot of dicussion in this forum of precisely the type of questions about shackle strength that I've been asking, so it was a reasonable assumption that someone might know something.

If no one knows that's fine. If you find my quesitons to be beside the point, then I suggest you ignore them. You must have better things to do with your time. When I see threads in online forums that I think are ridiculous, I don't leap in and start attacking people. I just move on to things that interest me or where I have meaningful input (that I have not already said, many times, in other threads).

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