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Need help finding compatible padlocks

Thinking of upgrading your door security? Getting a better deadbolt or padlock? Getting a new frame or better hinges? Not sure what brand or model to go with for your particular application? Need a recommendation? Feel free to ask for advice here!

Re: Need help finding compatible padlocks

Postby cledry » 8 Nov 2016 6:20

No not all can take a 7 pin core. A 7 pin lock can usually take a 6 pin core though. Most puck locks will take the 7 pin core though.

BTW, CCL Sesamee puck locks can take a standard KIK cylinder. CCL makes a nice line of padlocks that are a little different to the competition and reasonably priced. Currently I have customers using their locks with Corbin, Sargent and Schlage LFIC.
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Re: Need help finding compatible padlocks

Postby cledry » 8 Nov 2016 6:21

With SFIC you can always upgrade to higher security SFIC later without having to purchase new locks.
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Re: Need help finding compatible padlocks

Postby cledry » 8 Nov 2016 6:34

Number21 wrote:It does look like the SFIC core locks are the closest thing to what I want. Are all SFIC locks and cores interchangeable? Are all SFIC locks capable of using a 7 pin cylinder?

If I buy a bunch of matching keyed cores now, and I want another one in the future, roughly how much will it cost to have a locksmith key it to match?


If you supply bitting, and an uncombinated core we would charge $25 at the shop to key up a core.
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Re: Need help finding compatible padlocks

Postby billdeserthills » 8 Nov 2016 11:42

Number21 wrote:It does look like the SFIC core locks are the closest thing to what I want. Are all SFIC locks and cores interchangeable? Are all SFIC locks capable of using a 7 pin cylinder?

If I buy a bunch of matching keyed cores now, and I want another one in the future, roughly how much will it cost to have a locksmith key it to match?



I think you will be money ahead if you replace the deadbolt and install a 'latch guard'--The main problem with a hasp is it leaves something to attack,
if you put a shield/guard over the latch that will make it much tougher to cut the bolt. You might try spending more than $10 on the new deadbolt also,
especially if you want the 'cut proof' portion to work as intended. It's obvious to me that installing a puck lock and a hasp will only give your criminal
something to aim the hammer at--I prefer to lose the target
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Re: Need help finding compatible padlocks

Postby Number21 » 9 Nov 2016 8:00

billdeserthills wrote: I think you will be money ahead if you replace the deadbolt and install a 'latch guard'--The main problem with a hasp is it leaves something to attack,
if you put a shield/guard over the latch that will make it much tougher to cut the bolt. You might try spending more than $10 on the new deadbolt also,
especially if you want the 'cut proof' portion to work as intended. It's obvious to me that installing a puck lock and a hasp will only give your criminal
something to aim the hammer at--I prefer to lose the target


If they're going to make the noise/take the time to sledge hammer a puck hasp that is bolted through a door, they could just as well aim that sledge hammer at the deadbolt. There really is no reason to spend more than $10 on a deadbolt, given the invention of wonderful 18v lithium ion power tools. With a good battery and a nice carbide blade there is no bolt that can't be cut with just one battery charge. If they can't cut the bolt then just cut the door in half.

The only thing a more expensive lock would do is keep the pickers out - as you can see, my cheap-o Master lock has done the same job.

Additionally you're missing the point that not everything I have takes a standard deadbolt.
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Re: Need help finding compatible padlocks

Postby Squelchtone » 9 Nov 2016 10:40

Number21 wrote:
billdeserthills wrote: I think you will be money ahead if you replace the deadbolt and install a 'latch guard'--The main problem with a hasp is it leaves something to attack,
if you put a shield/guard over the latch that will make it much tougher to cut the bolt. You might try spending more than $10 on the new deadbolt also,
especially if you want the 'cut proof' portion to work as intended. It's obvious to me that installing a puck lock and a hasp will only give your criminal
something to aim the hammer at--I prefer to lose the target


If they're going to make the noise/take the time to sledge hammer a puck hasp that is bolted through a door, they could just as well aim that sledge hammer at the deadbolt. There really is no reason to spend more than $10 on a deadbolt, given the invention of wonderful 18v lithium ion power tools. With a good battery and a nice carbide blade there is no bolt that can't be cut with just one battery charge. If they can't cut the bolt then just cut the door in half.

The only thing a more expensive lock would do is keep the pickers out - as you can see, my cheap-o Master lock has done the same job.

Additionally you're missing the point that not everything I have takes a standard deadbolt.



Hey boss we're trying to help you, so please be kind and mind the tone. You seem overly angry that places like mrlock or other internet stores or this forum doesnt hand you some easy and cheap solution for all of your styles of locks and doors on a silver platter. This is clearly a custom job and will not be an out of the box kit you can just buy off the shelf.

We're giving you free professional locksmith advice using our best possible efforts without having visited the site which is the normal way of giving a quote or suggestion of which hardware to use. I disagree with you on the idea that it makes no sense to spend more than $10 on a deadbolt. Look into Grade 1, Grade 2, and Grade 3 hardware. I guarantee you that a decent Grade 1 Schlage deabdolt would be a much bigger pain to cut through than a Kwikset deadbolt from Home Depot. I doubt the bad guys with their sawzall want to be standing there for 10 minutes cutting a door open, all that noise and unwanted attention is not in their best interest.

I think a good suggestion would be to get a monitored alarm system with a couple door contacts on your main doors or wisely placed motion sensors that get the largest area possible without having to put in dozens of motion sensors everywhere. It does seem like you've already made up your mind that locks wont stop your particular bad guys, maybe it's time to try something different. At least put some alarm company stickers on all of your exterior doors and maybe spend $219.99 on a 4 camera system from Super Circuits http://www.supercircuits.com/4-camera-h ... m-sys4qte4 Are there any motion lights on the building or rent a cops patrolling the area? I'm assuming it's some industrial area and looks like this, but hey that's just what my mind has conjured up: https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6320 ... df28_b.jpg

good luck with your project,
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Re: Need help finding compatible padlocks

Postby billdeserthills » 9 Nov 2016 14:34

Number21 wrote:
billdeserthills wrote: I think you will be money ahead if you replace the deadbolt and install a 'latch guard'--The main problem with a hasp is it leaves something to attack,
if you put a shield/guard over the latch that will make it much tougher to cut the bolt. You might try spending more than $10 on the new deadbolt also,
especially if you want the 'cut proof' portion to work as intended. It's obvious to me that installing a puck lock and a hasp will only give your criminal
something to aim the hammer at--I prefer to lose the target


If they're going to make the noise/take the time to sledge hammer a puck hasp that is bolted through a door, they could just as well aim that sledge hammer at the deadbolt. There really is no reason to spend more than $10 on a deadbolt, given the invention of wonderful 18v lithium ion power tools. With a good battery and a nice carbide blade there is no bolt that can't be cut with just one battery charge. If they can't cut the bolt then just cut the <censored> door in half.

The only thing a more expensive lock would do is keep the pickers out - as you can see, my cheap-o Master lock has done the same job.

Additionally you're missing the point that not everything I have takes a standard deadbolt.



As I pointed out it is difficult to cut the bolt with a guard plate over it. A guard plate costs less than $10 and can be installed in 10-15 minutes
Anyone who will stand in front of your door with a cut-off tool and take the time to cut your deadbolt latch will also stand there with a hammer
and bash your puck lock--

The only difference is in the amount you pay to gain your perception of security--My way actually costs less money--Both ways are equally insecure
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Re: Need help finding compatible padlocks

Postby Number21 » 9 Nov 2016 19:44

Wow - some of you guys sure are full of yourselves. Thanks for those that actually helped, nothing further to talk about here. :roll:
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Re: Need help finding compatible padlocks

Postby Squelchtone » 10 Nov 2016 2:09

Number21 wrote:Wow - some of you guys sure are full of yourselves. Thanks for those that actually helped, nothing further to talk about here. :roll:


You're a real pleasure to deal with all well. Good luck with your locks.

Locking this thread, sometimes I dont know why we bother helping the public.... they seem to think they already know everything.

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