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OK, it's a faq, but what's the best lock for me ?

Thinking of upgrading your door security? Getting a better deadbolt or padlock? Getting a new frame or better hinges? Not sure what brand or model to go with for your particular application? Need a recommendation? Feel free to ask for advice here!

OK, it's a faq, but what's the best lock for me ?

Postby antimafia2 » 23 Sep 2017 16:43

Hi,
I want buy and install the most secure lock all over the world. I am not interested in ant-brute-force ways to open the door...I am just interested in "no-trace" way like picking... bumping and so on... I am not interested in anti-snap.. anti-dill and so on... Some would say evva mcs... but as many know... mcs was been picked.. then is there something more secure (from the point of view of non-destructive way) ?
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Re: OK, it's a faq, but what's the best lock for me ?

Postby Squelchtone » 23 Sep 2017 17:15

I think most will still agree that Abloy Protec 2 is still unpickable. Maybe some guy made a tool and some govt agency has a tool but unless you are guarding your house from a foreign country, I would go with that lock.

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Re: OK, it's a faq, but what's the best lock for me ?

Postby QcLocksmith » 29 Sep 2017 19:45

I work with Abloy every day, no doubt the best lock. free moving disk and very few friction on the parts. No pins and spring or sidebar makes the lock very durable.

On high trafic doors, I can have to rekey or replace a medeco lock every year because its too worn. I very rarely have to rebuild an Abloy lock compared to any other pin/spring lock (assa twin, medeco, etc..)
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Re: OK, it's a faq, but what's the best lock for me ?

Postby GWiens2001 » 29 Sep 2017 22:04

QcLocksmith wrote:I work with Abloy every day, no doubt the best lock. free moving disk and very few friction on the parts. No pins and spring or sidebar makes the lock very durable.

On high trafic doors, I can have to rekey or replace a medeco lock every year because its too worn. I very rarely have to rebuild an Abloy lock compared to any other pin/spring lock (assa twin, medeco, etc..)


Abloy uses sidebars. That is the actual blocking mechanism for the discs.

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Re: OK, it's a faq, but what's the best lock for me ?

Postby Moses057 » 30 Sep 2017 2:20

What about the Bowley Lock
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Re: OK, it's a faq, but what's the best lock for me ?

Postby QcLocksmith » 30 Sep 2017 16:28

GWiens2001 wrote:
Abloy uses sidebars. That is the actual blocking mechanism for the discs.

Gordon


Absolutely right, I wanted to point the traditional assembly of the springs, pins and sidebar that we don't see in Abloy, thanks for making it clear ;-)
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Re: OK, it's a faq, but what's the best lock for me ?

Postby GWiens2001 » 30 Sep 2017 16:32

QcLocksmith wrote:
GWiens2001 wrote:
Abloy uses sidebars. That is the actual blocking mechanism for the discs.

Gordon


Absolutely right, I wanted to point the traditional assembly of the springs, pins and sidebar that we don't see in Abloy, thanks for making it clear ;-)


Thought so, since you are familiar with Abloy. But in case the OP did not know, wanted to clarify. :D

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Re: OK, it's a faq, but what's the best lock for me ?

Postby QcLocksmith » 30 Sep 2017 16:38

Moses057 wrote:What about the Bowley Lock


I never had one in my hand... the question I have when I see the Bowley lock is how it perform in the long run. Maintenance seems a bit hard... the dirt entering the keyway is then scooped and pushed up by the key to the pin and springs. Do you have to take all the lock apart to clean it, I don't think just a spray of lube in the keyway can reach and partially clean the lock as I can do with other type of lock.
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Re: OK, it's a faq, but what's the best lock for me ?

Postby Prizrak » 30 Sep 2017 20:56

QcLocksmith wrote:
Moses057 wrote:What about the Bowley Lock


I never had one in my hand... the question I have when I see the Bowley lock is how it perform in the long run. Maintenance seems a bit hard... the dirt entering the keyway is then scooped and pushed up by the key to the pin and springs. Do you have to take all the lock apart to clean it, I don't think just a spray of lube in the keyway can reach and partially clean the lock as I can do with other type of lock.


I suspect that one would have to take the lock apart to clean it, but it can be done. Still, to my knowledge the Bowley has never been picked, and I can't imagine how it could be picked, though I'm sure someone will figure out a way...
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Re: OK, it's a faq, but what's the best lock for me ?

Postby billdeserthills » 1 Oct 2017 19:55

Prizrak wrote:
QcLocksmith wrote:
Moses057 wrote:What about the Bowley Lock


I never had one in my hand... the question I have when I see the Bowley lock is how it perform in the long run. Maintenance seems a bit hard... the dirt entering the keyway is then scooped and pushed up by the key to the pin and springs. Do you have to take all the lock apart to clean it, I don't think just a spray of lube in the keyway can reach and partially clean the lock as I can do with other type of lock.


I suspect that one would have to take the lock apart to clean it, but it can be done. Still, to my knowledge the Bowley has never been picked, and I can't imagine how it could be picked, though I'm sure someone will figure out a way...



Which only leaves every other way of getting past the Bowley lock--That latch looks like a cheap import latch
the mounting screws are likely in a rather predictable place, also I don't see the Bowley lock for sale at this time
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Re: OK, it's a faq, but what's the best lock for me ?

Postby Moses057 » 2 Oct 2017 3:27

You can buy the Bowley lock here http://www.bowleylockcompany.com/store/ ... ducts.html
The only downside is they don’t make a double keyed lock. It’s only keyed on one side and a thumb turn on the other
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Re: OK, it's a faq, but what's the best lock for me ?

Postby Ralph_Goodman » 5 Oct 2017 12:06

Moses057 wrote:You can buy the Bowley lock here http://www.bowleylockcompany.com/store/ ... ducts.html
The only downside is they don’t make a double keyed lock. It’s only keyed on one side and a thumb turn on the other

Does anyone know how the company is doing? Are people buying the lock?

I have not seen a single one out in the wild... though I am seeing more smart locks.

Bowley seems to have quite an uphill battle in terms of penetrating the market. Someone on my website was saying that the company was defunct in response to someone else randomly mentioning them in my comments section. As far as I can tell, that claim is not based in reality at all.

Is that a rumor going around, or that had gone around? Did they have troubles at one point? Does anyone know?

It might have just been some yahoo on the internet making stuff up, but it was oddly specific. In my research, I could not find anything about this.
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Re: OK, it's a faq, but what's the best lock for me ?

Postby billdeserthills » 5 Oct 2017 14:20

Moses057 wrote:You can buy the Bowley lock here http://www.bowleylockcompany.com/store/ ... ducts.html
The only downside is they don’t make a double keyed lock. It’s only keyed on one side and a thumb turn on the other


It's easy enough to simply drill through the attatchment screw holes, change the tailpieces and make
your own double deadbolt--Of course a real high security double deadbolt costs less $$$
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