Deciding on a lock with no key.

[bioggy]

Well friends today were on about how not every one in their family has a key and they want a digital lock to do away with the keys etc. by that I mean no front door key needed.

Can any of you recommend me advice to give them. I seen a yale one but it didn't look too great.

I am very appreciative of any advice thank you

[ARF-GEF]

Are you thinking about a code keypad or a card (like RFID) or some fancy looking biometric stuff like fingerprints?
Or something smartphone based?
I have to say I'm personally far from being a avid fan of these solutions.
They are cool and flashy, but I don't really know an reasonably priced one which provides good security.

[MBI]

If you want a good one:
https://securitysnobs.com/Samsung-EZON- ... dbolt.html

[GWiens2001]

I can vouch for Security Snobs. Have purchased from them several times, and have always been pleased.

Gordon

[bioggy]

Like I said they are for friends so not to sure, basically it is what ever is reasonably secure and I got no price range but personally if it was coming down to me for my security I wouldn't spare the cash but I will pass on the Snobs info thank you MBI.

It is mainly for the purposes of not all their family has a key and one of them is a vet who works every where their daughter so they want a keyless system in place.

On a quick edit I just got told they want one with a keyless lock already installed. They are against the idea of getting a locksmith to install the Snobs

[Evan]

On a quick edit I just got told they want one with a keyless lock already installed. They are against the idea of getting a locksmith to install the Snobs

Sorry, but since keyless locks are slightly more complicated than a standard lock to install, this is where they are making their biggest mistake...

Trying to find a keyless lock that fits the holes already in the door is a fool's errand...

~~ Evan

[mhole]

Just get more keys,like sane people would.

[bioggy]

Just get more keys,like sane people would.

Oh I totally agree!.

Evan I know exactly what you mean. Yale do doors with them already on etc. but I much prefer if they would just go about the right way and get it installed correctly so there will be no issues!.

[MBI]

To everyone who is commenting on the difficulting in installing an electronic lock, read the product description for the Samsung lock I linked.

"Unlike most electronic access control products this is a self contained unit that requires no external hardware, powering, or interfacing. It can be installed into any standard door through the deadbolt hole and requires no additional holes to be drilled or door to be modified. This makes it a much easier install that most other electronic products, and something easily done by the home owner or handy man without needing a professional to install the unit. It does not require any special tools for install."

[Evan]

To everyone who is commenting on the difficulting in installing an electronic lock, read the product description for the Samsung lock I linked.

"Unlike most electronic access control products this is a self contained unit that requires no external hardware, powering, or interfacing. It can be installed into any standard door through the deadbolt hole and requires no additional holes to be drilled or door to be modified. This makes it a much easier install that most other electronic products, and something easily done by the home owner or handy man without needing a professional to install the unit. It does not require any special tools for install."

That is what it says, but remove the lock and you never know if you are going to find a 2 1/8" crossbore or a smaller hole... I have been surprised a few times -- you would then need a hole saw to rebore the hole to the proper size...

~~ Evan

[GordonAlexander]

Schlage electronic locks sold at Home Depot use a 2 1/8" bore. Emtek electronic deadbolts do as well. The Emteks are about 200 bucks, but they are a decent lock from a great company. Kwikset makes a electronic deadbolt with a 2 1/8" prep as well. There is a cool residential deadbolt made in Korea called Suneco(company name), but I don't know if they are back in production from the Tsunami. The Suneco uses a magnetic resistance key that has no moving parts. It might be worth removing the existing lock and see if they have an existing 2 1/8" hole. If not, dewalt makes a decent door jig for under 20 bucks, available at Home Depot.

[mhole]

To everyone who is commenting on the difficulting in installing an electronic lock, read the product description for the Samsung lock I linked.

"Unlike most electronic access control products this is a self contained unit that requires no external hardware, powering, or interfacing. It can be installed into any standard door through the deadbolt hole and requires no additional holes to be drilled or door to be modified. This makes it a much easier install that most other electronic products, and something easily done by the home owner or handy man without needing a professional to install the unit. It does not require any special tools for install."

Also, athe op is in Wales, UK. The odds of finding a door prepared for a North American style deadbolt are microscopic. Iirc Yale do a digital lock which replaces the cylinder on a rim night latch, but like all digital locks in the UK this is for access control not security.

[MBI]

Also, athe op is in Wales, UK. The odds of finding a door prepared for a North American style deadbolt are microscopic.

Boy I sure missed the boat on that little fact, thanks for catching me on that one.

[cledry]

I would steer clear of any smart phone locks or locks with biometrics. I have had a few calls on Samsung locks and wouldn't use them either.

In the UK I'm not sure what to recommend, in the US I would use a Kaba E-plex.

[ARF-GEF]

Cledry, that magnetic bypass was remedied right?
PS I though E-plex was more access control than security soultion. What's your view on that?