Less rakeable cylinder needed

[streak]

I made myself a Bogota rake.
I tested it out on 4 of my test locks and was amazed how quickly I managed to open them.

So I then decided to test some of my house locks and all I can say is that I managed to rake them much too easily.
There could be easier ways than raking our locks to get into the house but for my own peace of mind wondered if I should go one step further on the mortise cylinders to make them less rakeable.

I don't need to go the expense of Medeco but maybe something a little better from Schlage?

[Squelchtone]

You straight up have screw in style mortise cylinders in your home locks or do you mean they are regular cone shaped USA style deadbolts that have KIK cylinders in the centers?

I see you've been a member for a while, you should share photos of your Bogota, we're always interested in seeing people's craftsmanship.

Medeco Keymark is cheaper than Medeco but a total pain in the ass to pick due to the nasty keyway. How many locks do you need to replace? sometimes deals can be had on ebay for various high security locks, but finding the correct tailpiece or cam can be challenging.

Squelchtone

[stainless steel]

http://imgur.com/Pj6Ygrl maby something like this ?

[GWiens2001]

This one is more difficult to open with a Bogota.



Gordon

[stainless steel]

This one is more difficult to open with a Bogota.



Gordon

No you anly need a square bogata

[streak]

Thanks for the prompt replies.
I'll get some images up in the morning.
I assume I cant attach them here but must host them first on one of my photo sharing accounts?

[blue60]

that's correct, Photobucket or Imgur are the more popular choices

[streak]

Morning all.
Here is the lock which I just removed from the door to get the picture. I see it's actually a key in lever cylinder. I have these on all out outside doors keyed alike.



And here are two Bogotas that I made yesterday. They are not pretty but they work.
I ended up using 3.2mm wiper blade steel which I manage to get this week. I was going to try and get some street sweeper bristle but this stuff seems have the right thickness.
I am still working on smoothing them out using 1000 grit emery cloth.

Now that I understand what needs to be done I will refine my methods and try and make some better looking ones.

[Squelchtone]

ok cool, so I dont have anything to recommend at the moment but many manufacturers make retrofit cylinders for Schlage. that's a key in knob cylinder and it looks like it has a lazy tailpiece, can you turn the tailpiece in either direction while the lock cylinder is locked? if you can it is lazy.

Your options range from getting a CX5 cylinder or Kaba Peaks, to Medeco, Bilock, Abloy Protec, Mul-T-Lock, ASSA Twin 6000, Schlage Primus, or Schlage Everest. None are what I would call cheap so how many do you have that you want to replace? this could easily run $50-$100 per door. I recommend the above locks because they have 2 points of locksing, unlike regular locks that just have traditional pin stacks.

Hope this helps,
Squelchtone

Ps. nice evenly spaced geometry on your Bogotas, lookin good!

[streak]

Thanks ST!
How did you choose that username? I have been a radio ham since the 70's so the name caught my attention.

You run a great forum here, I cant believe that I joined over 8 years ago, about the time I bought my first set of picks. A bunch more relevant posts and hope to apply for the advanced section.
It was a huge sense of satisfaction picking locks with my first hand made pick and wrench.
Like the first fish I caught on flies I tied myself!

I was planning on hiding these DIY picks outside in case I get locked out of the house, wont help if I upgrade cylinders!

Working hard on my SPP as well.

Have a great weekend.

[Squelchtone]

I'm a police scanner junkie, chose the name about 15 years ago. I like how the CTCSS / PL Tone system works. Needed a new name and playing around with the words in CTCSS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuou ... lch_System I thought it had a good sound to it. Was known by a few other names before then, mostly in the 2600 Magazine meetings circles and on BBS systems in the early 90's.

old pic of me from my 'hacker' days..

[streak]

I knew you had to be into some type of radio activity.
I use CTCSS all the time to access the local repeaters.
In fact while I type this I am monitoring via Broadcastify activity in the NY area.

I have an old AOR3000A which is an outstanding receiver but does not have any of the digital modes.
One of these days I may get myself a trunk tracker type receiver.

I am sure many folks on this forum have at least one other past-time/interest in common.

[stainless steel]

You can actualy meke your own security pins and put it in your lock it will make it a litle tufer and probobly vary hard to rake