Thinking of upgrading your door security? Getting a better deadbolt or padlock? Getting a new frame or better hinges? Not sure what brand or model to go with for your particular application? Need a recommendation? Feel free to ask for advice here!
Hi all, new to the forum, been surfing and searching for a while now (here and the www).
I've decided I need 3 padlocks, one with a long shakel, two with - don't really care, just regular but not over 8-10mm. I'm trying to find something for a reasonable price but difficult to pick (to keep inventive teens out). Basically, to locks some handguns until I can find a decent safe. My budget is around $100 for 3, maybe stretch to $120.
It has holes to bolt it down and flat safe deposit lock keys that teenagers wont be able to pick. You could store at least 2 handguns inside. Maybe all 3 depending on what you have and how you put them in there.
This is an overstock seller and this thing is a ton better than some junk Sentry safe from home depot.
If that little safe isnt your style, and you still prefer padlocks, are you worried about them just picking or cutting shackles?
This is definitely something I'm interested in, are you sure its not easy to pick the locks on this? I bought this last year and discovered it is not very secure at all - Fort Knox FTK-PB Pistol Box Handgun Safe https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004H ... UTF8&psc=1 - has a maximum of 1024 possible combinations, otherwise very solid.
I appreciate you advice, and I think I will purchase this small safe but wanted to ask, can you recommend a decent lock also? I have these locks behind the trigger, just an extra level of security (makes it impossible to pull the trigger). I'm not so worried about cutting, the tools I have would not cut a lock. So its more picking.... and I've been on Utube, seen how easy it is to find instructions on lock picking.
Unless your last name is Houdini, your teens are not gonna pick or jiggle that dual nose lever lock open nor will they make usable improvised tools for them without proper training and understanding on how that stylen of locks work. I would say far better than that push button lock that can be "hacked"
Let me see what locks fit on my guns behind the trigger, inside that Mesa safe it honestly wouldnt matter but Im always supportive of multiple layers of security when it comes to gun storage.
For me, I have 3 handguns. One revolver and two semi automatics. the automatics can hold up to 8mm behind the trigger on one, 12mm on the other. The revolver, I can use a longer shakel (over 2") through a chamber.
With the safe you listed and some decent locks, I would feel much more secure. Until I can afford a $700+ safe at least.
It would help if they were keyed alike. But not of high importance.
Ok, so get that safe because there are only 3 left and no, Im not the seller I promise.
Just so I understand and I just took this pic, is that how you want to secure the guns from full trigger pull but want padlock that cant be picked easily?
The American Lock H10 on the Beretta is not easy to pick but not impossible, otherwise I would recommend some fake Abloy locks from ebay, real Abloy PL330 padlocks are like $70 each. Let me look up some clones. Normal lock picks cannot pick an abloy style disc lock. The 9mm S&W has a Sargent Greenleaf surplus 8077 government file cabinet combination lock on it, its a real safe lock in a padlock body, requires professional safe cracker level skills to crack it, but is not made to withstand someone with a hacksaw or sawzall.
That's exactly what I need them for. And the safe is available on Amazon for the same price. I will check out the H10 as a starter lock until I can find something better.
Here is another American Lock the 5200US its what uncle sam gives GI's to lock their foot lockers and stuff around the base. Hard to pick for any beginner and well made. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001NCBWFG/
From the Amazon reviews for these locks, the A5200 (negative reviews specifically) they say these locks do not have "Security Pins". If I buy these, is it possible to add pins to make them hard to pick? And how difficult is that to do? And what would the extra cost be?
Just purchased the safe, about to add 2 - 3 of these as they are keyed alike. But, if they are not adjustable to make more secure, I might try a different option.
You certainly do your homework. Master Lock bought American Lock a dozen years back and it seems quailty has finally started to suffer. If you can get the 5200 without Bump Stop pins, there will be a better chance they still have serrated anti picking top and bottom pins. To really be sure its best to walk into a local locksmith shop and buy the padlocks there as they can take one apart to make sure and they have the pin kit to put in serrated security pins where as you wont be able to easily get your hands on one.
Are your teens already adept at picking? I know you tube makes it seems real easy but if I hand a beginner an American Lock padlock there is no chance they'll pick it.
Perhaps you can attach a cable lock to the inside of your new safe and run that cable through the trigger guards in additon to the 3 padlocks so the guns cant be removed even if the safe door is by some moracle opened.
im actually thinking of doing the wait-and-buy-PW for now. theres a used PW1 locally for a fair price, but how do i check if Amazon is going to block it???
Master Lock bought American Lock a dozen years back and it seems quailty has finally started to suffer. If you can get the 5200 without Bump Stop pins, there will be a better chance they still have serrated anti picking top and bottom pins. To really be sure its best to walk into a local locksmith shop and buy the padlocks there as they can take one apart to make sure and they have the pin kit to put in serrated security pins where as you wont be able to easily get your hands on one.