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Seeking Padlock Recommendation

Thinking of upgrading your door security? Getting a better deadbolt or padlock? Getting a new frame or better hinges? Not sure what brand or model to go with for your particular application? Need a recommendation? Feel free to ask for advice here!

Seeking Padlock Recommendation

Postby DBinSV » 17 Apr 2018 1:05

To make a long story as short as possible, our storage unit was broken into last week. Management is allowing us to use an over lock plate (aka a lock-out plate) to add a padlock, in combination with the existing cylinder lock (that is what it is called on the packaging at A-1 Self Storage). Here is a link to a photo showing the configuration (on someone else’s unit): lock-out plate, padlock and cylinder lock: http://www.a2zwriting.com/images/A-1_Lo ... ration.jpg

The regional manager talked with me extensively today about recommendations for the type of padlock we should get. He said he once counted that in his many years working for storage facilities, he has removed no less than 50,000 locks from storage units! But not by picking them. Rather, by using tools to knock or pry them open or off or cut them open. On the basis of that experience, he recommended locks that he said he hated most to have to remove. His top recommendation was the Master Magnum Lock (M50XKAD). But when I went to YouTube, I found that this lock, although it may be very annoying to cut off at the shackle, can be picked relatively easily.

At that point, I realized that there seem to be two dimensions involved: (1) the level of difficulty with which a lock can be knocked, cut or pried open/off and (2) the level of difficulty with which it can be picked.

The padlock I wish to locate should meet these three criteria:
1. Difficult to pick
2. Difficult to crack, cut or hammer open
3. Shackle diameter not larger than 8 mm (to fit into the hole where it must go)

Here is some other information about me that may be helpful:

Location: California.
Budget: Willing to pay whatever the best padlock for the circumstances costs.
Threat level: The two men who broke in previously may reattempt at any time.
Shackle diameter: No more than 8 mm.
Level of lock sought: Top of the line under the circumstances.
Lending: Not likely that we will ever lend the keys to anyone.

Thank you in advance for any assistance rendered! If any additional information or clarification is called for, just let me know.
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Re: Seeking Padlock Recommendation

Postby Squelchtone » 17 Apr 2018 5:47

ask head manager to move to a different unit near by and do it when low level employees who may or may not be involved in break in are not around. then let the bad guys break into your old unit again and find it empty.

or and hear me out since I too rented a unit for years.. stop throwing $100 a month away on a storage unit for old books and knick knacks. I did that for 5 years at $150 per month to store classic car parts and other boxes of crap. in the end, sold the car parts to a buddy for a hundred bucks and threw away everything else. I dont even want to know what 5 years x 12 months x $150 per month adds up to. It was liberating and I was no longer putting the storage unit owners kids through collage.

As far as padlock quality the guy recommending Master doesnt sound very knowledgeable, master is notorious for being easy to pick and that style of padlock is based on the German Discus padlocks made by Abus. Get a real Abus Discus 24/70 with a Plus cylinder and call it a day.

it may be snug or it may not fit that plate, but it *should* fit
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009S5Y6ZS/

the other option is, if you can move units to another unit, do not put any extra padlocks on if literally nobody else on the row has an extra padlock or you'll end up sticking out like a sore thumb.

good luck,
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Re: Seeking Padlock Recommendation

Postby DBinSV » 17 Apr 2018 10:56

Thanks so much for taking your valuable time to respond to my question. I appreciate the recommendation for the ABUS 20/70, which certainly looks like an excellent padlock.

In the Q&A from the product page on Amazon, it is stated that the shackle diameter is nearly 10 mm. The configuration at the storage unit only allows for an 8-mm shackle diameter (my wife and I both measured the hole carefully yesterday). Would you be able to make another recommendation, on that basis?

Your point about not keeping things unnecessarily in storage is very well taken. In our case, we have reasons for needing this storage space, which I won't waste the bandwidth here to explain.
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Re: Seeking Padlock Recommendation

Postby Squelchtone » 17 Apr 2018 14:21

The Abus 24/60 has a 5/16th (8mm) shackle, they also make a smaller one that has a 6.5mm shackle.

8mm 5/16th
https://www.amazon.com/ABUS-24IB-60-KA- ... B005UMBKD4

yes, they are pickable, after all, most locks are, this one is just harder to pick than Master.

A video of an expert picker from the hobby lockpicking community picking one, it still takes him a few minutes and most burglars arent gonna sit and pick for a few minutes..
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Re: Seeking Padlock Recommendation

Postby billdeserthills » 17 Apr 2018 15:09

Squelchtone wrote:ask head manager to move to a different unit near by and do it when low level employees who may or may not be involved in break in are not around. then let the bad guys break into your old unit again and find it empty.

or and hear me out since I too rented a unit for years.. stop throwing $100 a month away on a storage unit for old books and knick knacks. I did that for 5 years at $150 per month to store classic car parts and other boxes of crap. in the end, sold the car parts to a buddy for a hundred bucks and threw away everything else. I dont even want to know what 5 years x 12 months x $150 per month adds up to. It was liberating and I was no longer putting the storage unit owners kids through collage.

As far as padlock quality the guy recommending Master doesnt sound very knowledgeable, master is notorious for being easy to pick and that style of padlock is based on the German Discus padlocks made by Abus. Get a real Abus Discus 24/70 with a Plus cylinder and call it a day.

it may be snug or it may not fit that plate, but it *should* fit
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009S5Y6ZS/

the other option is, if you can move units to another unit, do not put any extra padlocks on if literally nobody else on the row has an extra padlock or you'll end up sticking out like a sore thumb.

good luck,
Squelchtone


I had my stuff in storage for years, likely would have cost less for me to just replace the lathe, mill & bandsaw
the Abus Discus lock is also a great pick for your storage
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Re: Seeking Padlock Recommendation

Postby DBinSV » 17 Apr 2018 20:50

Thank you all, so much!

I just purchased the ABUS 24/60 through Amazon.

It seems to fit the bill exactly (and also has a very nice look to it).
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