HPC Inverted 6-Pin Tubular Lockpick

[symbols]

Hey guys! I've been reading lockpicking101 forums for a while now and it has been very informative and helpful. This is my first time posting and I had a quick question for you guru's out there. I've searched these forums, google, and many lockpick supply sites for an HPC Inverted 6-Pin Tubular Lockpick but no luck. Below is a link to the tool itself on their site.

http://www.hpcworld.com/lockhpc/p_tlpspr.htm

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks

[plot]

you'll probably have to go through a liscensed HPC dealer. and then, you'll probably have to be a locksmith... i havn't found to much HPC stuff available to the public. What i do run across is rare... yet, it seems like all locksmiths have a set or two...

maybe it's just me and my perception of the picks are completely blurred. just my 2 cents.

[Chucklz]

HPC equipment can be ordered through www.lockpicks.com I beleive. I have never seen an inverted 6 pin tubular lock though, and if anyone has a picture, I am quite anxious to learn about these locks.

[symbols]

Yeah, I can get some picutres of 6-pin inverted tubular locks for ya. Ill upload them onto my server in a few hours. They are sometimes used as locks on coffee and candy vending machines.

[symbols]

Here are the pictures I took.

http://rolo.psychz.net/~phear/6pin/1.jpg
http://rolo.psychz.net/~phear/6pin/2.jpg
http://rolo.psychz.net/~phear/6pin/3.jpg

This one is probably the best, it shows all 6 pins and then the strange 7 pin between two of them. I dont even see where tension would applied if a normal key were to open it.
http://rolo.psychz.net/~phear/6pin/4.jpg

Or maybe im completely wrong and this isn't even a 6pin inverted at all . Although on hpc's site it said their 6-Pin Inverted Pick works on the locks commonly found on real estate padlocks. I remember seeing the lock on them and they both seem to look the same to me.

[plot]

i'm seeing 7 pins... probably the southord pick would work. i'm not an expert on tubulars though, as i don't own any.

two more things:
- cropping does wonders
- what is this lock on you are trying to pick?

[symbols]

Yeah, sorry about not cropping the images beforehand :p
A friend of mine owns some vending machines and asked me if I could pick them, and well, my southord 7 and 8pin (newer style) didn't exactly work.

[Pheniox]

its 7 pins
are you sure your using your tublar pick right?

[symbols]

Well they aren't evenly spaced, so I'm not sure how I would pick it with the southord's.

[technik]

I dont even see where tension would applied if a normal key were to open it.

A friend of mine owns some vending machines and asked me if I could pick them,

if your friend owns the vending machines, ask to see the key, this should answer some of your questions

(unless, of course this is just a cover story )

[symbols]

heh, never thought about that. He originally called me up and asked if I could pick it with my southords, didn't think about looking at the key first I'll ask him next time I see him

[Chucklz]

I actually was just out today, and saw a new vending machine. So I go over, and guess whats on it, one of those nice inverted tubular locks. Thanks symbols.

A quick look at the lock, and at my Southord tubular pick gives a bit of information. First, that the pick does indeed fit in the lock, altough the spacing is off, and there is no way to tension the lock properly, it appears.

[symbols]

hehe np Chucklz. The same results occured with me aswell. The pick does fit and seems to decode some of the pins, some off-spacing but still the question remains - how to apply tension.

Hopefully we will find out soon.

[Chucklz]

Unfortunately, I dont really have a lock to even examine. Anyone got a link to someone selling these locks?

[symbols]

Yeah, I'd like to get some more information as well about these locks, what company makes them, etc..

Anyone got an idea? :p