Lockpicktools Falle Type Picks

[lockjaw]

P.S. Your still a prick.

That should be "You're still a prick" or "You are still a prick".

Apparently a prick that can spell.

[lockjaw]

<Boring, insipid and flaccid prose clipped>

Again you seem to be misunderstanding what a personal explanation or biographical information is, for further assistance with this please consult your English teacher.

Whatever you say Mr. "I Can't Compose an Argument".

Also I am now requesting that all of your prior statements made on this on other posts be substantiated with facts (as well as an appropriate bibliography) and in cases where you are quoting an individual the entire quote be displayed, this is do to the issue you seem to have with misquoting for what appears personal means.

I can't even parse this mega sentence. You must have missed all of your English classes. Do they still speak English in England?

Your lack of co-operation will be self-acknowledgement that you are both a plagiarizer and here with the purpose of trolling and/or flaming, both of which is unacceptable. Also please learn how and use the quote tags appropriately, there is a sticky in the general info. area on said subject, this will remove much confusion from your posts.

The onus is on you to prove that I'm a plagiarizer. Please go and find the text that I have plagiarized and reproduce it on this forum.

I also suggest that you provide a detailed resume with references for the inspection of forum members, as this will end debate to the authenticity of your “knowledge”.

Really who cares what some semi-literate buffoon like you requests or suggests. The irony of being whipped with your "thumbnail dipped in tar" essay escapes you.

[UWSDWF]

John Falle is better than anybody on this site *unproven generalisation*

No, it's a deduction based on fact. Given that John Falle is internationally preeminent in the field of covert entry then at the very least he must be as good as anyone on this site. Whether he is "better" than everybody on this site depends on the probability that someone with the skills and knowledge of John Falle is spending their leisure time helping teenagers make picks out of hacksaw blades and providing tips on picking the Masterlock #1. The likelihood of this is very small.

Sir, you are again mistaken here, for that deduction to be made based on fact an unbiasised competition, with numerous factors that need to be gauged, would have to be conducted between both Mr. Falle and all 27507 users registered to this site. Until this said competion or aleast the numerical statistics (time, speed, difficulty, ect….) are factored and given what you have is not fact, it is mearly summation of your personal opinion. I would hate to think that you believe that your personal opinion is quantifiable as fact. I request you further explain what Mr. Falle does is his leisure time has to do with this at all, statements like that remove your credibility and obscure your point.

John Falle and Barry Wells know more than everyone else *unproven generalisation*

I'd add Marc Tobias to the list and I'd rephrase that to John Falle and Marc Tobias know more than everyone on this forum about covert entry. Barry Wels is a most probably better lockpicker than anyone on this forum for the same reason as above.

The worlds intelligence agencies come to Tobias and Falle for instruction on covert entry. Falle has developed more decoding tools than any other one person and Tobias has written the one and only encyclopedia on covert entry. It follows that these two men are authorities in the field of covert entry. Again, it is unlikely that there is some unknown, unheard of covert entry expert equal in stature to Falle and Tobias that spends his/her leisure time helping kids make bump keys. It's possible but it is highly unlikely.

Sir, you are again mistaken here, for that deduction to be made based on fact an unbiasised competition, with numerous factors that need to be gauged, would have to be conducted between both the aforementioned security consultants and all persons living who are either now or were previously engaged in covert entry. Until this said competion or aleast the numerical statistics (time, speed, difficulty, ect….) are factored and given what you have is not fact, it is mearly summation of your personal opinion. Though I would like you to explain further how assisting a person making a bump key has anything to do with this argument.

The Falle set is the best picking set on Earth *unproven generalisation*

Possibly the Milky Way... If this is to be false then there must exist some secret pick set that hasn't gone to market that is made of superior materials, has a superior design and is accompanied by a superior lock picking method. Again this is highly improbable. That would be the unicorn argument. You are asking me to prove that unicorns don't exist.

Again Sir your concept of reality and what is nessicary to call something a fact. Since lockpicking is used fairly often in black-ops would it not be believeable that said ‘secrect pick set’ exists. The OP did not ask you to prove unicorns don’t exist, but rather not make a statement of opinion as a fact.

These are claims you have made, but they are not proven, and neither are they likely to be proven.

They are valid and reasonable deductions.

You are incorrect Sir, they are not valid as your deduction is flawed. You are taking opinions and using them to create deductions as though they were fact. This flawed sense of reality destroys the validity of your prior statements in regard to this reply.

At this point the rest of your point is simply redundant and at times insulting. I will not restate my prior in an attempt to end your redundancy, though if you feel it necessary please read what I said above approximately six(6) times. Again I refer you to forum rules 9 and 15 in regards to your insulting personal attacks, which bear not repeating.


Cheers
UWSDWF

[raimundo]

could the modern raters move this thread to alt.locksmithing please?

[UWSDWF]

<Boring, insipid and flaccid prose clipped>

Again you seem to be misunderstanding what a personal explanation or biographical information is, for further assistance with this please consult your English teacher.

Whatever you say Mr. "I Can't Compose an Argument".

This a personal attack that has no bearing on this subject. What is the purpose of this other then Trolling (see the forum rules 15)? Is this a cry for help? Is it possible that you weren’t shown enough love as a child and now you are acting out? I don’t know, but rather then attempting to start fights on this forum I’d rather you seek out professional help.

Also I am now requesting that all of your prior statements made on this on other posts be substantiated with facts (as well as an appropriate bibliography) and in cases where you are quoting an individual the entire quote be displayed, this is do to the issue you seem to have with misquoting for what appears personal means.

I can't even parse this mega sentence. You must have missed all of your English classes. Do they still speak English in England?

I apoloigize that you cannot understand the previous statement, I admit it is a bit of a run on sentence, thought you lack of comprehension would be due to an seeming mental defect and not the lack of grammar. This as well has no bearing on this subject. It appears that when you have not tangible reply you seem to attack.
To summize your question about England, I imagine that they would still speak English in England, personally I have never been there. I must ask what language is spoken in different parts of the world has to do with this subject what so ever?

Your lack of co-operation will be self-acknowledgement that you are both a plagiarizer and here with the purpose of trolling and/or flaming, both of which is unacceptable. Also please learn how and use the quote tags appropriately, there is a sticky in the general info. area on said subject, this will remove much confusion from your posts.

The onus is on you to prove that I'm a plagiarizer. Please go and find the text that I have plagiarized and reproduce it on this forum.

You are mistaken; the inflection of the previous post places the onus on the targeted reader (in this case you). Also please note that with all academic institutions once an author is accused of plagiarism the onus is laid upon the author and not the accuser.

I also suggest that you provide a detailed resume with references for the inspection of forum members, as this will end debate to the authenticity of your “knowledge”.

Really who cares what some semi-literate buffoon like you requests or suggests. The irony of being whipped with your "thumbnail dipped in tar" essay escapes you.

This a personal attack that has no bearing on this subject. I have addressed you in any derogatory manner, yet you seem to feel that you must insult me. What purpose is this to serve, other then the fact that you lack any manner of which to refute my statements leaving you with only to rely on your fight or flight mechanism?

Cheers
UWSDWF

[Legion303]

Mr. Lockjaw, in your rush to show your superior English skills by proving you don't know how commas work, you seem to have overlooked my simple request. Here it is in full:

All you are doing is asserting one of the prevailing orthodoxies on this forum namely that John Falle despite his stature in the field, experience and genius is flat wrong about picking pin tumbler locks.

I appear to have missed this argument from Shrub. Would you be so kind as to quote it in full context for me? Thank you.

-steve

Please reply or retract at your earliest convenience.

-steve

[Shrub]

Lockjaw,

Its simply pointless writing a long post back to you pointing out the faults with most of your statements so i will briefly put a couple of points down that may make you think what your saying but as you obviously didnt read my long post properly i doubt it will of much use anyway,

You have still yet to back any of your statements up with actual fact, i can however adress a couple of issues before this thread gets locked that you dont seem able to comprehend,

I didnt call you a prink at any point, infact although 4.30am when i typed it or there abouts i was still of sound mind and not rambleing against myself to actually re-read my post a few times to make sure i was not putting forward an attack,
If you read into that that i was calling you a prick then maybe its your self concious tellign you that, on a simular note i also didnt mention diamonds as i cant spell it and didnt call Johns picking abilities in to any sort of question in fact i actually said the direct opposite,

You continuely go on about Barry and co being the worlds best pickers, i like Barry and get on well with him so no disrespect BUT let me think just what position did he place in the Dutch Open? hmm

You suggest theres no-one of any sort of caliber of John for the only reason you can come up with that he makes tools for covert entry and that people like John, Mark and co would not be on such a site like this and yet you then suggest theres no such thing as uber secret lockpicking circles,

I dont have to justify myself to you in any way but lets just say There are people on here who are making tools for goverment and covert entry who dont go by the names you stated and yes they do come on to help the youth of today get into the hobby, these hobby pickers then move up to being professional pickers and then buy the said tools so it is in some sort of interest to be here,

Just to repeat what ive stated in the other thread you seem to have taken over,

Lockjaw, I was goign to pm you about your attitude but you obviously wouldnt listen so i say it here,

Stop your personal attacks or you will be removed from site, if you have an issue with a particular member take the actual issue up with them in private, your continued attacks against Romstar for example is totally out of order,

Airing your personal differances on the site is unacceptable,

Thread locked.

Ps, i just want to add that you have been presented with fact from our defence but you still have yet to back up your claims, you like to use words that actually mean nothing, to say things that basically mean youve summised somthing doesnt mean squat, your a no-body on here and if you continue youll be an ex member, thats all there is to it, youve not actually brought up any evidence to back up your claims in anyway,
IOn fact i seriously doubt youve even got a Falle pickset yourself,


As Ray stated, if you want to keep this sort of attitude up and this sort of pointless unfounded garbage then piss off to IL its full of people you would love,

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