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Ace II

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Ace II

Postby symbols » 4 Apr 2004 15:32

Hey, I've searched these forums and google for some information about picking Ace II tubular locks, although didn't quite find what I was looking for. From the information I've gathered, the Ace II can't be picked with normal 7 pin tubular locks. I own both of the picks below and have had no luck at all.

http://www.lockpicks.com/product.asp?0=206&1=220&3=296

http://www.lockpicks.com/product.asp?0=206&1=220&3=49

When I was searching, I found this pick, http://www.shomertec.com/item.cfm?Action=Search&variable=136 and it mentions it is capable of opening high security locks such as the 'Ace II'. Anyways, im interested in purchasing an Ace II pick, but don't want to spend alot of money for a pick like a Petersen. Does anyone have any experience with that Greenwald Pick or any other recommendations for a pick capable of Ace II's. Thanks!
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Postby Chucklz » 4 Apr 2004 16:52

The information you have gathered is incorrect. The ACE II can be picked with "normal" 7 pin picks. Take an ACE II that you have a key for, manipulate it with the pick for a while, as though it were a standard lock, and then compare. If you know what makes the ACE II special, you will be able to adjust your technique accordingly.
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Postby symbols » 4 Apr 2004 21:39

Thanks for the information Chucklz, ill play around some more with my Ace II. By the way, what does make them 'special' by chance? :)
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Postby Chucklz » 4 Apr 2004 21:56

There are a few springs that are much stronger than the rest.
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ace II springs

Postby raimundo » 23 Apr 2004 9:23

Ace II mixes soft copper springs with hard stainless springs. the stainless springs are in the places where your pick gets pushed to the 7th/8th depth, (ace recognizes seven depths, fortlock sees eight) google for "steve arnolds gun room, and look on the second page for special ace type lockpicks, they are way too expensive, but if you send a sase to the address in dexter oregon, they will probably send you an info sheet on the most expensive of the pickmasters units that will explain a lot about the various permutations of ace. there are three common diameters and one small diameter for which the keyblank is not available, I make ace picks from keyblanks cut to the eighth depth with sliders from hairpins. I have a design that I have not produced yet for the ace II, which has the sliders going it brass tubes made from ballpoint refills, cleaned out and inside the refill, is a spring from the smaller bic lighter flint (find it under the sparkwheel, don't put your eye out when it comes out.) these brass tubes would be affixed to the shaft so that they can be pushed forward or back, Rubber banded on, actually, and this would make counter pressure that can be adjusted by pushing the spring tube forward, to counter balance the stainless steel springs in the ace II, the forward ends of the sliders would still be banded under two or three of those black O rings that you get from the plumbing section of your hardware store.
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