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How long does it take you to pick a lock?

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

How long does it take you to pick a lock?

Postby xboxteen01 » 12 Apr 2007 21:52

just a benchmark kinda survey to see where im at. if presented with a new lock youve never picked yet how long would it you take to pick it?i can do a master lock in 2 rake strokes,but i dont know if thats just dumb luck. i tried to pick an old doorknob lock by using individual pin method and raking but to no avail. im just wondering your best times for new locks.

[Title edited by MBI so it makes sense.]
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Postby freakparade3 » 12 Apr 2007 22:00

That would depend on the type of lock, brand of lock, picking ability, tools available........ Theres just no way to accurately answer.
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Postby Charodei » 12 Apr 2007 22:10

As freakparade3 said, t really depends on the lock and such. A Kwikset deadbolt often takes about 30 seconds, though a nastily pinned one takes several minutes. A Yale will take me longer, much more with security pins.

The thrill isn't how fast you are, but how hard a lock you can pick. Opening a Kwikset in ten seconds is nice, but opening a Medeco in ten minutes is far more impressive.
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Postby Chucklz » 12 Apr 2007 22:34

Depends entirely on the individual lock. I have a master #6 that will pop in less than a second, and a master #3UP that can sometimes take 20 seconds. If I got another of each of those locks, who knows how long it would take. I wouldn't expect them to open as quickly as that 6 or as long as that 3UP can be sometimes.

As a very general guide. The more pins the longer it will take. The more security pins the longer it will take. The better the tolerances on the lock, the longer it will take. Master keying tends to reduce picking time, but that too can be variable (ie if only one chamber has a master pin). SFIC (operating and control shear lines) may take a very long time. Complex, tight keyways may take a longer time to pick.

Even this isn't even close to a list of factors to figure in, including bitting, MACS for that lock, width of your pick, how rested/warm/sober you are.

But there are some general trends you can base things on.
5 pin Kwiksets will probably be some of your quickest picks
Master 4 pin padlocks are also generally quick
5 pin Schlages will probably take longer than Kwiksets.
American padlocks (even 4 pin) may take a very long time, considering how loaded with security pins many of them are.

I don't know how others feel about this, but if you ask everyone, you will probably get a few hundred different answers. But I would suggest you would find that among north american pickers Kwiksets will be considered the quickest pick (and the most commonly installed)
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Postby Knows-Picker » 13 Apr 2007 11:54

But I would suggest you would find that among north american pickers Kwiksets will be considered the quickest pick (and the most commonly installed)


I agree, along with EZSET and weiser. All about the same lack and even given a new lock with no idea of the key code, it never takes more than 2 mins. They are all pretty cheaply made.

To get back on course of the thread let me pose a more specific question.

What is your best time on an American Series 1105 manufactures in the 2000's (disk in place so no bypass) brown anodized body? (I think these are the most common 1105's)

Now with these times keep in mind that this is only with manual picks, no EPG's or manual pick guns. If you can rake them then that in itself is impressive. I single pick pin mine, I have 5 all keyed differently, and I can get them in about 30 seconds or so. I have "LUCKED" up into doing them in about 5 seconds on a few occasions, but then it is never duplicated until a week later or so , complete fluke.

How long does it take you guys?
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Postby JackNco » 13 Apr 2007 12:35

Knows-Picker wrote:
But I would suggest you would find that among north american pickers Kwiksets will be considered the quickest pick (and the most commonly installed)


I agree, along with EZSET and weiser. All about the same lack and even given a new lock with no idea of the key code, it never takes more than 2 mins. They are all pretty cheaply made.

To get back on course of the thread let me pose a more specific question.

What is your best time on an American Series 1105 manufactures in the 2000's (disk in place so no bypass) brown anodized body? (I think these are the most common 1105's)

Now with these times keep in mind that this is only with manual picks, no EPG's or manual pick guns. If you can rake them then that in itself is impressive. I single pick pin mine, I have 5 all keyed differently, and I can get them in about 30 seconds or so. I have "LUCKED" up into doing them in about 5 seconds on a few occasions, but then it is never duplicated until a week later or so , complete fluke.

How long does it take you guys?


If ur getting 1105's open in under a minute your a better man than me!

Took me 40 minutes the first time i got my hands on one. and i dont think ive ever had it open in under 2/3 minutes.
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Postby raimundo » 13 Apr 2007 13:52

I never picked one with brown anodyzing, but I picked one with red anodyzing, does that count?
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Postby Knows-Picker » 13 Apr 2007 21:40

I am pretty sure that they are the same Ray. If you want some advice on how to do it quickly JackNco, here is what I do to open them:

First rake it with a deforest half diamond. Then when you get a false set, use a half hook and feel for the spool pins. once you set them (usually 2-3) then go back through and "tap" each pin from back to front. Shouldn't take any more than two times from back to front. This is just to set any serrated pins that are not set yet. Hope this helps.
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