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Guide to tempering, with video

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

Guide to tempering, with video

Postby unbreakable » 31 Dec 2006 20:14

I threw together a guide on tempering. The video might make it hard to see some of the tools sometimes, but it is focused on the torch and metal, and shows all the steps you need to go through to temper a street sweeper bristle, or a hacksaw blade.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid= ... 2&hl=en-CA

*CORECTION* In the video I first say to heat the pick up to a cherry red, but I meant to say orange. :oops:

You'll need
~Picks to temper
~Heat source capable of getting the metal red hot ( I used a propane torch, but you could use a bed of coals, bar-b-que, stove, etc.)
~Pliers or vice grips to hold the pick\
~Sandpaper or a dremel (I used 320, but anything that will get the bristle nice and shiny will work, this is important to see the fine colour changes when heating)
~A jar of water to quench the pick in.
~Fire extinguisher, and goggles and gloves if you feel so inclined.

Heres what you need to do

First, get your pick all cleaned up. You'll want to remove any glue, paint, or other gunk on it.

Next, fire up your heat source. Heat you pick up to a nice bright orange, then, while its still very hot, quench it.

At this point, the metal will be very hard, but also very brittle. So be careful when handling the picks, as they may break.

Now, sand the pick so that its a shiny silver. This is important because you will need to be able to see the colour changes in the metal.

Finally, heat the metal up ever so slightly so that it changes colour from a silver to a light blue. heat the metal up to this blue colour, then quench it. Make sure to heat all the metal that you got hot in the first step, and not to miss any bits because they will remain brittle and break easily.

Any you're done! The result should be nice and hard, but not brittle.

A couple of pointers

~This works nicely on cheap bi-metal hacksaw blades (the 8 pack for a buck). After tempering with this method, they're awesome picks, nice and hard and durable.
~Don't overheat the picks in the second step, when trying to turn them blue, or you'll have to start all over again.


Enjoy!
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Postby mjwhit » 31 Dec 2006 20:33

Nice man thats a very handy tutorial.
I was wondering how to do that, I was just making sure the metal didnt get too hot during manufacture, but now i can temper it..
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Postby iNtago » 31 Dec 2006 20:33

Nice UWSDWF!

Quick question when you say

~Don't overheat the picks in the second step, when trying to turn them blue, or you'll have to start all over again.


do you mean start at heating the pick to orange or start completely over( new pick)?
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Postby mjwhit » 31 Dec 2006 20:36

umm unless im mistaken iNtago i believe Unbreakable made this thread and the video, not UWSDWF...
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Postby iNtago » 31 Dec 2006 20:38

i am an idiot

unbreakable same question
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Postby mrdan » 31 Dec 2006 20:51

Cool! very cool indeed. Now i have to go and play with fire (again) :twisted: 8)
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Postby unbreakable » 31 Dec 2006 20:52

All you'll have to do is reheat the pick to orange and start over again tempering, but you won't have to remake the whole pick.
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Postby Shrub » 1 Jan 2007 9:44

Blue is too hot but you can learn more by reading one of my many posts on hardening properly elsewhere, i will look at the vid later,
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Postby hurri » 1 Jan 2007 10:23

Nice one unbreakable...Thx. :)
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Postby unbreakable » 1 Jan 2007 14:41

Shrub wrote:Blue is too hot but you can learn more by reading one of my many posts on hardening properly elsewhere, i will look at the vid later,


Well I found this while searching-
Shrub wrote:Sweeper bristles i have little knowledge of as i dont have any but im guessing they are indeed a form of spring steel but a little too small for making decent picks from unless a separate handle is to be made,


Sooooo..........

I tried what you sudgested. I heated the sweeper bristle as hot as I could, then quenched it. I then sanded it with a dremel. I then turned my torch down real low, and tried to heat it to a straw colour. No luck with the torch, it got "too hot" and turned blue. It still was nice and hard though, and wouldn't snap easily.

Next, I heated a NEW piece of metal with the torch, got it hot, and quenched it. Then I went upstairs and tried heating it on the stove. It turned from silver to brownish yellowish colour. I quenched it, and then tried to bend it. It snapped. Must not have gotten hot enough.

I tried again, with a new piece of metal, and this time I heated it with a butane bar-b-que lighter. This made it much easier to heat the metl to this straw colour. After heating, and quenching, the metal was nice and hard, but it only bent a little before snapping.

So, based on testing, heating to a straw colour is hard to do! It will make the metal nice and hard, but will also make the metal more prone to snapping. If heted to a blue, the metal will be harder than it origional state, and won't snap nearly as easily as the metal heated to straw colour.

I hope I haven't offended you, i know you know A LOT about metal working, but for the bristles that I have in my possesion, the method in the instructions works best. I don't know about hacksaw blades, I'll have to experiment with them later.
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Postby unbreakable » 1 Jan 2007 15:00

just tried again....

I got the metal to an even nicer and more uniform straw colour, again with the lighter.

The metal ended up nice and hard, but again, snapped easily. This is also a full size piece, that hasn't been ground down into a pick. I imagiane that it it was ground down, it would snap way too easily too work well as a pick.
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Re: Guide to tempering, with video

Postby Rami » 18 Apr 2009 5:30

The video doesn't work :(
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Re: Guide to tempering, with video

Postby unlisted » 18 Apr 2009 10:44

Rami wrote:The video doesn't work :(

That video was hosted WAY back in 2006. Links break after a while.
New user? Click HERE & HERE & HERE
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Re: Guide to tempering, with video

Postby Rami » 18 Apr 2009 14:49

maybe a new link?
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