Cant quite single pin pick

[james5345]

When i try and SPP i am pushing the pin before and after the pin i am actually trying to pick. On a cylinder lock (euro), i've tried using different picks but not really sure what i'm doing wrong wether the tension bar is wrong wether the pick is wrong...
I know i'm doing this to the pins because i've got a training cylinder lock which shows me the pins as i'm picking

I'm using feeler picks (i think) but with a slight hook or cink in the arm of the tool, its seems to be the only one i can get that pushes the pins high enough but its pushing too many rather than one at a time...

Any ideas?

[datagram]

You should be able to get just one pin without affecting the other pins when you use a hook ("feeler" as you say). Big part of it is practice, feel, and visualizing where the pick tip is in the lock as you move the tool around.

As always, practice makes perfect.

dg

[james5345]

thanks for the reply , yeah i can really almost see sometimes what the pins are doing then other times, i can feel its not happening so i start again and then it opens... anything with 4 pins i find ok and getting easy but with 5 it just seems to stump me.

The pick is at an angle to not horizontal angle but almost 45 degree tilt to make sure i can lift the pin enough does that sound about right?

[barbarian]

.... i am pushing the pin before and after the pin i am actually trying to pick......

Sounds to me like your pick is too big. Sometimes you get the one before with the shaft of the pick, but the one after ?

Try a medium hook.

[Solomon]

You don't have to move them exactly one at a time, just with minimal movement of the other pins. I find that in certain locks I have to keep the TW closer to the center to get pins setting properly, and for those situations, I can't get at the back pin with longer hooks without disturbing my TW. Try a medium/small hook or an offset half ball. I dunno if that's the actual name or not, hence the link, but what I do know is that they're made of equal parts steel and magic.

[datagram]

Solomon,

That is a "deforest" style pick.

dg

[james5345]

thats the pick i am using, didnt know the name of it! i find it the best pick to use... ok i've really settled on using this pick but may have to try using different tension bars... maybe this will help bet yeah i'm catching the other pins on the shaft of the pick but maybe that wont actually pose that much of a problem