safe venture curtain wall pick

[keyman]

Hi this is my first post,i recently brought the safe venture curtain wall pick which i can only use if i use it on a cutout lock,as soon as i replace the full cover i struggle, is this pick typically hard to use.

[toomush2drink]

Welcome

Not hard to use just need to practise a lot and when you get bored of that pratice some more.Check out the european section for a lot more info on this tool.

[EvoRed]

Hi,

Not sure what you mean Keyman but as far as curtain wheel picks go, the Safeventures is regarded as about the best. It will not, however, lift the lowest levers as the wire cannot get underneath them so you will not be able to pick locks with low levers using it.

[mbell]

Pinky, the foremost preacher of NDE on BS locks on LP101, has written some excellent posts regarding the use of curtain picks elsewhere on this site.

I've got my Falle/Safeventures curtain pick working successfully on only a small range of locks, mainly becuase the lever lifter just won't fit under some or all of the levers. Understandable as it was only designed for a few makes

As Toomush2drink mentioned, this tool needs a considerable amount of practice in comparison to most of the BS decoders from what I gather. anti picks .

[keyman]

Thanks guys that explains why, i had been having trouble with low levers on the union bs lock 2234

[EvoRed]

I've got the Safeventures curtain pick and I'm awaiting delivery of a Francis thumb pick to use on locks with low levers. This and the Chris Belcher pick will pick locks regardless of lever height.

[keyman]

i have also got the safe venture decode set for securfast as it is the lock the local council fit but i find that the left had set works 95% of the time but the right set hardly ever decodes have i got a a bad set of right sided keys? through practice i have worked out where they go wrong and made my own set of diagrams to help but this is so long winded .

[pinky]

i would say you have a bad set of keys, i get 100% in under 2 mins, get your keys checked out.

the curtain pick is effective on all 2134/2234 locks with no No 7 lever present.
i open , union, yale chubb, legge, era , etc with this pick, it wont happen overnight and it needs a s**t load of practice, but all locks a beatable, it may sound sad but you must strip loads of locks study them , look at vulnerablities and pick them, only when you understand the lock and the mind of the inventor can you understand how to defeat it.

its 30% the tool , 70% your own commitment and skill to practice.

[keyman]

Thanks pinky for your input , and yes i probably do have a bad set of right keys,just my luck but intime will cut a new set,thanks again.