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Sparrows Monstrum

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

Re: Sparrows Monstrum

Postby NinjaLlama » 25 Jun 2014 19:12

I just got in a sparrows flat bar set and decoder today. Trying to use top of the key way torsion for the first time feels strange.
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Re: Sparrows Monstrum

Postby MrTomorrow » 24 Mar 2015 22:54

I used to get my kicks on Route 66 but now I just ordered The Monstrum - exotic picks. They look like a Canadian special. I just felt the need for some long picks with a hair of an uplift near the tip. Designed by Wizwazzle I believe. I've found the feed back on Sparrow picks to be excellent, strong, flexible. I've melted some shrink wrap tubing on some of the bare handle models. I haven't bent anything except the picks on the snap gun. I already have some of their thermo-plastic handle rakes so I think I'll be happy with more of the same. They look quite nice for SPP and I'm looking forward to it. And a couple more flat bars tossed in yet. On another note, they have a pair of picks called 'King and Queen', ten bucks. I swear they open a lot of stuff. I've had some nice small half diamonds and so forth from Southord and Pertersons. But I don't see anything like The Monstrum out there. Sparrows has the quality and they don't ding you crazy hard for shipping. $97 with shipping and tax. I've probably placed a half dozen orders over the past year or so with Sparrows. My Sherman case is so way over stuffed now it doesn't zip closed anymore.
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Re: Sparrows Monstrum

Postby MrTomorrow » 29 Mar 2015 15:12

The set of 9 Sparrows Monstrum picks arrived within 48 hours via Canada Post for $6.95 a la Canadian dollar. They are just what I was expecting, something that will pass over the tension wrench on a small cylinder. Great handles. I was hoping to find a new 'go to' pick here and that will be the case for sure. They are of good stiff steel and a new variety of tips I don't see elsewhere. So I'm satisfied and also delighted to not get hosed for over the top shipping and handling fees. It also came with four flat bar wrenches, zip up pouch and a cool serpentine snake rake that looks to be a companion to the King and Queen pick. http://www.sparrowslockpicks.com/product_p/monstrum.htm
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Re: Sparrows Monstrum

Postby Syl » 30 Mar 2015 23:23

The Sparrows Monstrum XXL arrived today. Nice picks, I think. I welcome the handles because my bare HPC picks are doing a number on my hands. I've also been excited about trying the horizontal pry-bar-style wrenches. I've been attempting to use TOK tension, but the two tension wrenches I got from HPC weren't cut out for it. Even after some modification, they'd slip out of the top of the keyway often enough to make picking locks with TOK tension very frustrating. I also wanted to try a variety of different shaped picks. So far, I've only used a low hook, half-diamond, and snake, and that's pretty much it. So, now I get to explore a wider variety of picks!

Sparrow picks definitely bend more than HPC's picks when pressure is applied. I wonder how much that has to do with the thickness of their tang and how much it has to do with the differing metals. I think this is actually better, though, because they will bend before they break. The HPCs sometimes feel as if they could be brittle compared to the metal used in the Sparrows picks.While I'm talking about the thickness of the tang, I should mention that the Sparrows picks are thinner than their HPC cousins. See the second image below. I've already been enjoying this feature as it makes getting deep behind the front pins easier to do without accidentally hitting pins you didn't intend to hit. I've got a couple Schlage cylinders that just became easier to pick.

You can see in the photos below that the metal used by Sparrows is slightly gold-tinged compared to the HPC metal. I was going to say they don't look that way in person, but now that I'm checking again in the light, they do appear to have a slightly gold/brass hue to them. The tension wrenches are definitely very silver, though.

The handles are a hand-saver. They appear to be some sort of plasti-dip, but it is pretty thick. They do not add much weight to the pick at all. The Sparrows picks feel only the tiniest bit heavier than the single-ply HPC picks. They are easily lighter than the HPCs with the 3-ply, metal handles. So far, I cannot detect any attenuation to the tactile sensation I get from the lock due to the handles. But, I usually have my middle finger further down the shaft, touching the metal near where the pick is entering the lock. I probably do feel most of the tactile feedback through that finger, but I don't think anyone would have a problem even if they only touched the handle while they were picking.

While the HPC set came with slight burrs and rough spots on one side of the picks, the Sparrows set did not. Now, obviously they aren't mirror polished or anything like that, but either they are manufactured in a way that does not create burrs, or they do something to remove them. I did end up smoothing the edges of my most-used HPC picks and that helped them to be more maneuverable in the lock. The Sparrows, on the other hand, have no issues moving about in a lock, right out of the case. They are much smoother.

I thought it was interesting how the two companies style the tips of their picks. Sparrows seems to take a slightly more subtle approach to the curves and angles in their pick tips. I took a few photos comparing them and posted them below in case anyone else finds it interesting. The snake stands out as the biggest difference in design to me.

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The full set minus the case: Click here for the full-size image.
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Comparison - HPC next to Sparrows - Full tang
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Comparison - HPC Half-Diamond next to Sparrows Half-Diamond - Tips
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Comparison - HPC Low Hook next to Sparrows Low Hook - Tips
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Comparison - HPC Snake next to Sparrows Snake - Just the tips.
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A single question:
Has anyone attempted trimming the handles to expose longer sections of the thin tang, allowing for deeper penetration into the lock? Is it possible they leave a portion of the handle on there in order to strengthen what is essentially the weakest part of the tang?
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Re: Sparrows Monstrum

Postby KPick » 30 Mar 2015 23:56

I don't think I've seen anyone on the forum try that due to how expensive the set is to even begin to think about damaging the picks.
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Re: Sparrows Monstrum

Postby Syl » 31 Mar 2015 0:18

I would tend to agree with them, too. And, I haven't discovered any need for doing so yet. I was just curious. In a couple of photos on the sparrows site, they show picks that look like they've been more carefully dipped so as to only coat the wider, handle part of the tang. That's what gave me the idea.
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Re: Sparrows Monstrum

Postby norwoodgolf » 21 Apr 2015 0:01

I have trimmed the plastic on all my Sparrows using a razor blade and the picks have suffered no ill effects.
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Re: Sparrows Monstrum

Postby Squelchtone » 21 Apr 2015 8:01

norwoodgolf wrote:I have trimmed the plastic on all my Sparrows using a razor blade and the picks have suffered no ill effects.


Hey! Nice to see you on here! =)
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Re: Sparrows Monstrum

Postby aussieguy » 23 Apr 2015 10:57

My starter pick set is Sparrows Monstrum XXL with thermo plastic handles. I did find that trimming the plastic was required on some of them for comfort and deeper access into my practice locks.

I found after trimming them though, there was an annoying semi-sharp edge left. I tried cutting the plastic away at an angle as well without resolve.
The best way to rectify this was to apply heat at the cut area and slightly melt the thermoplastic, this had the effect of melting the sharp edge to a nice rounded one.

Disclaimer: Any modifications performed are at your own risk.

Don't apply a direct flame to the plastic as this just burns it.

I used an Electronics SMD rework station as my heat gun. I would assume a normal electric heat gun would work as well if careful and controlled.
Or a flame heat source used indirectly, e.g. holding the pick off to the side of the flame.

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Re: Sparrows Monstrum

Postby UnlockingBoredom » 23 Apr 2015 23:42

This is the one thing I dont care for with the Sparrows picks, they are pretty thin and bend easily. I have had mine for a couple months now and they have been bent so many times they just wont stay unbent... I think its time for some new picks before I break one of these (at least the short hook as I use it most of the time)
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Re: Sparrows Monstrum

Postby boggif » 6 Jun 2015 13:40

I really like my Monstrum XXL that has some different picks than my other sets have. After about a year of use I've had no problems. I've not bent any but I'm not heavy handed like I was as a beginner.

All of my picks have needed some sanding to round the edges and some extra polish is always wellcome. Sparrows is no exeption in this case.

One point that has not been mentioned is that they are rather small. I like the small size much more than eg. Southord max that is quite long. For large locks you may find Sparrows a bit short, I tend to use something else always. On the other hand, the small size is so great with european padlocks that I pick mostly. The profile is not too high and they are quite nice in small locks even though they are not perticularly thin.
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