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Modeled Falle pick in 3D

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

Postby n2oah » 25 Aug 2005 21:04

I recommend this set If you are looking for cobalt.

I love harbor freight.
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Postby vector40 » 25 Aug 2005 21:14

Goodness, choices.

Is cobalt pretty much the highest-end option in this realm of hardware, in terms of strength and durability? I'm not really well-versed in these things.
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Postby Mad Mick » 25 Aug 2005 21:32

n2oah wrote:I recommend this set If you are looking for cobalt.

I love harbor freight.

I have the same set in Titanium. Some of the smaller bits are not quite true, but you get what you pay for...and it wasn't much considering the size of the set.
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Postby n2oah » 25 Aug 2005 21:52

I did some research, but I found noting about the highest end drill bits.
I assume cobalt is the best--but diamond may be better. As far as I'm aware, you can't drill steel with diamond bits, as diamond bits are only for glasswork. I could be wrong.
This is the current set I have is a Ryobi set. (titanium nitride coated) It looks something like this
[url]http://imagex.homedepot.com/f/248/13340/7d/www.homedepot.com/cmc_upload/HDUS/EN_US/asset/images/eplus/033287136384_3.jpg[/img]
I couldn't find an exact picture of it.
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Postby n2oah » 25 Aug 2005 21:54

n2oah wrote:I did some research, but I found noting about the highest end drill bits.
I assume cobalt is the best--but diamond may be better. As far as I'm aware, you can't drill steel with diamond bits, as diamond bits are only for glasswork. I could be wrong.
This is the current set I have is a Ryobi set. (titanium nitride coated) It looks something like this
[url]http://imagex.homedepot.com/f/248/13340/7d/www.homedepot.com/cmc_upload/HDUS/EN_US/asset/images/eplus/033287136384_3.jpg[/img]
I couldn't find an exact picture of it.


Whoops, I meant:
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Postby n2oah » 25 Aug 2005 22:59

As far as drilling and drill bits go, can someone show me how to drill out this double-sided wafer lock? I have drilled pin tumbler locks before, but never a wafer lock. It is on a gumball machine (that I own, of course) and I can't seem to pick it. PM me if you know how.
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Postby wsbpress » 25 Aug 2005 23:22

FYI I just finished the Falle deep curve 3-4. I used a different technique for the sweeping arcs and it is much more accurate. I will probably re-do the deep curve 1-2 using this technique.

here's the link if anyone wants it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/40553263@N00/37260609/

Also I printed out the deep curve 1-2 on adhesive backed inkjet paper and cut it out with an x-acto knife. I then stuck it to a 0.016" feeler gauge and Dremeled it out. It came out suprisingly good. I could only fit half the pick on the feeler gauge so I only cut the #2 side. It's a nice little keychain pick. It is really nice in the big Weiser keyway.

Does anybody know what patent infringements there are from reversing and manufacturing someone's (Falle's) design? Of course these tools are for my own personal use but I have thought that selling a few extra sets to recoup any extra manufacturing costs might be a good idea. And what about those Falle knock-offs that are being sold? Are they different enough that it is OK?
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Postby omelet » 4 Sep 2005 13:15

Grudge wrote:You could also ship that CAD file over to most modern metal shops and get an exact copy cut.


You will need a dimensioned drawing of the pick to give to the machinist so they can get it correct. Also, the drawing should done in such a way that the machinist can reproduce it easily. No need to introduce any discrepancies due to vaugeness, and no need to have unnecessary complications in design. This should be very detailed; leave nothing out.

You might also want to post a dimensioned view here so we can give you some feedback :P
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