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Perfect material for Tension Tools?.. How to treat it?

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Perfect material for Tension Tools?.. How to treat it?

Postby Olcaytug » 31 Dec 2005 19:11

Today I broke my eye-glasses. It shattered into three pieces. While I was grieving over its pieces, an idea came to my mind :idea: ...

The parts that protrudes from the glasses to the ears is extremely strong, elastic, and it never deforms! It should be a perfect material for tension tools! (I don't know what actually the material is, but my glasses are of Safilo brand, and they are quite ordinary)

I was immediately going to build a new tension tool, but I couldn't decide if I should heat the material before I bend it.. Will it lose its qualities if I heat it? What if I don't heat?

And how can I temper the material if I'm going to heat it?

Most people have old eye-glasses. Could the masters try them, and come up with ideas?

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Postby digital_blue » 31 Dec 2005 19:15

Well, my glasses don't have any of the properties of yours, so I'm not sure what material your would be made of. My guess would be that if you heat the material its properties will change though.

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Postby illusion » 31 Dec 2005 19:18

what about those "Memoflex" glasses... they can be deformed completely then they pop back to their original shape...
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Postby Shrub » 31 Dec 2005 19:19

Just bend, dont heat, it will be spring steel or a stainless of some such.

Heat them and youll damage it.

If it breacks it will be long enough to have another go but just get back first and ill talk you through doing it properly :wink:

Always and i mean always just try doing things cold first if you have enough material to try it with.
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Postby Olcaytug » 31 Dec 2005 19:19

I think my glasses are of titanium. But not those extremely thin ones; it looks ordinary.
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Postby Shrub » 31 Dec 2005 19:20

illusion wrote:what about those "Memoflex" glasses... they can be deformed completely then they pop back to their original shape...


Youll find there bi-metal of somesort.
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Postby Shrub » 31 Dec 2005 19:20

I dont think the ear piece will be Ti.
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Postby Gordon Airporte » 31 Dec 2005 21:30

I actually just got new glasses a few days ago and when they were fitting them they adjusted the arms (legs? Depends on what I want wrapped around my head I guess ;-) ) by heating them in a bath of some sort and bending them. I suppose you'll need to be able to hammer the end flat as well.
I did ask what the material was when I was comparing frames, but it was something I'd never heard of and I'm afraid I've forgotten.
The real problem is where might the rest of us get a resonably inexpensive (free, I think) supply of frames.
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Postby digital_blue » 31 Dec 2005 22:28

Gordon Airporte wrote:The real problem is where might the rest of us get a resonably inexpensive (free, I think) supply of frames.


Bar fights? :lol:
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Postby Shrub » 1 Jan 2006 10:33

:lol:

I would think an optitions have a lot of old frames the throw away, if they cant repair some or a customer just says throw these out for me when they get a new pair, may be worth a look.

As a side note does anyone know what wire braces for teeth are made from? strikes me it may do for somthing :?
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Postby Shrub » 1 Jan 2006 10:34

Obviously the new stuff not old sets that have been removed form someones gob :lol:
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Postby prmirage » 10 Jan 2006 12:37

Shrub wrote::lol:

I would think an optitions have a lot of old frames the throw away, if they cant repair some or a customer just says throw these out for me when they get a new pair, may be worth a look.

As a side note does anyone know what wire braces for teeth are made from? strikes me it may do for somthing :?


LOL..Good idea! Now all I need to do is find a kid with braces, hold him down and rip his braces out! While I'm at it, I might as well take his lunch money...LOL :twisted:
Be the lock...
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Postby Shrub » 10 Jan 2006 14:22

:lol: Now thats nasty......



Ill get my pliers :wink: :P
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Postby illusion » 10 Jan 2006 14:23

Get da pipe-wrench whilst you're at it mate...

You've said you needed some new teeth :twisted:
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Postby dark_desparado66 » 15 Jan 2006 3:30

well i did take a short course in metallurgy in high school and you CAN heat metal up to bend it while still keeping its properties. the trick though is to no "burn" it which is basicly just making it too hot.

if you were to bend something say as big as the flap of a pair of glasses i would personally recommend a little butane torch, most commonly reffered to as a "crack-torch" them teachers sure taught us right didnt they? anyways you heat the metal up EVENLY just slowly move your flame back and forth over the area you want to bend.

TIP. place the metal just at the tip of the flame to start with and slowly engulf the specimin with the flame untill you reach the optimal temperature.

then slowly and CAREFULLY bend it to the shape you want it while making sure to keep it within the heat range. this is where the torch comes in handy, most have a base to keep it standing upright (the politically correct term for this torch is a craft torch)
Either use a couple pair of pliers or thick gloves cause its gonna be hot!

After you have it bent to the desired shape you have made the metal weaker just by heating it up bummer huh? but ive got a solution for that...

i call it tempering

Tempering the metal is another way of giving that hard working, good looking HOT piece of metal its strength back

While still making sure the metal is hot enough to bend, dip that metal into the coldest bucket of water you can find. you therefore have bent metal efficiently while allowing it to keep its properties. well that was rather nice of you :)


In a nutshell what we have learned here today Ladies and Gentleman is this

Hot metal burn skin - Ice water Soothe burnt skin - Hot metal hates ice water - Ice water always wins

Metals regain their properties when rapidly cooled.

Melting point of steel is between 2300 degrees to 2700 degrees,
But you dont need to get that high, the 1000 to 1500 Degree range should be more than adequite

DO NOT heat anything that has a gold content of more than 30%. When gold goes through a smelting process they try to remove contaminants from the metal by introducing cyanide to it. even though they try to remove the cyanide from it there is still enough in there to kill you if you breathe it in Now im sure cyanide is a chemical known to the state of california that can cause cancer birth defects and a slight case of death

remember to always wear protective gear when doing ANYTHING that can cause physical harm. as for emotional harm as long as the metal doesent hold any sentamental value im sure youll be fine


And that folks is a short guide on tempering metal
I hope you have found this useful and entertaining at the same time
if you need anymore info either message or email me or do a quick search on metallurgy with your favorite search engine, now if youll excuse me im going to go rest my fingers :)
If it aint broke, Dont fix it. Just take it apart and see whats going on inside!
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