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easier impressioning

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easier impressioning

Postby ridderhenck » 18 Feb 2007 1:13

I was wondering after reading a lot of the articles placed here about impressioning how one impressions a dimple lock,is it the same as pin tumbler locks?

And how about using a piece of hard plastic,like creditcard material,to impression a lock first and then put the plastic made key on a blank and use a clipper to cut the new key.

I think using files on plastic is easier and faster,but like I said before,It,s just a thought. :?


Let me know those of you who have experiences with impressioning. 8)
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Postby Tygart » 18 Feb 2007 3:08

Look here

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Sorry Can't help other then that..
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Postby Shrub » 18 Feb 2007 15:00

Dimple locks can be impressioned in the normal way but i assume its a lot harder as ive not tried it,

The more common method is to cut a 10 10 10 key and place some foil over it, ive explained this process recently on another thread of which if im feeling kind i will sort you the link out for but the thread was labeled soft key i think,

Plastic for impressioning?

I see what your saying and agree but you then have the problems of how to tension the lock in such rapid movements at such force, you could use a separate tension wrench but then you would still have an issue of the credit card plastic etc tilting side to side which would alter the meaurements as well,

Ive made a series of plastic keys that are ok some from polymorph and others in other various materials,
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Postby Eyes_Only » 18 Feb 2007 15:44

I've heard of some people trying to impression dimple locks with popsicle sticks. Not sure if it was effective or not though.
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Postby ridderhenck » 20 Feb 2007 14:45

Thanks Shrub,good info,so you,re saying it is possible with a separate tensiontool,breaking the plastic using that as also tensiontool but I think a separate tensiontool is better,I,ll give it a try,let you know how things went.
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Postby TorontoTonto » 20 Feb 2007 17:03

The way ive seen is to use the 10 10 10 cut key and cover it completely in the foil sticky back air duct tape, make sure you leave no ripples of bubbles or seams. Then make sure to insert it without tearing or catching the tape.
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Postby ridderhenck » 21 Feb 2007 16:23

Ok thanks for the info!!!!Shrub,one more thing,you mentioned the use of the plastic key for entrance,believe me I will try that as well :D :D ,but i mentioned the use of the cut plastic key to use as example key to cut a blank key in the right size. :D
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Postby Shrub » 22 Feb 2007 7:38

If im right in what i think youre asking then yes you would be able to use a plastic key to cut a real one afterwards, theres very little pressure on the original key when cutting it or at least there doesnt need to be so there shouldnt be any problems,
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Postby Isakill » 22 Feb 2007 9:49

But, as stated previously. finding a way to not destroy the plastic using the pressures that are needeed.

I see the point but don't think it will work without some modifications to the process.

Let us know if it turns out :wink:
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Postby ridderhenck » 23 Feb 2007 12:55

I will,though it might take a while,my 2 year old son lies on ic right now and it doesn,t look good,so please pray for him.....
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Postby cjames73 » 23 Feb 2007 13:33

sorry to hear that ridderhenck, hope he pulls through.
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Postby ridderhenck » 11 Mar 2007 10:08

Hi everybody,here,s a note from me,my son past away the twentyfifth of february after two transplants,it didn,t work out....I know it has nothing to do with lockpicking but I would like to ask all of you to consider becoming a donor,I know now how important it is to have enough people who want to be donor.for my boy it was too late for others it might be the difference between life and death....Again,I know it has nothing to do with the art of lockpicking but I hope that with this message I can reach all of you....
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Postby Shrub » 12 Mar 2007 8:01

Ridderhenck,

I am so sorry to hear that and i pass my deepest sympathy and best wishes to yourself and your partner,

I hope you will continue to visit once you feel ready and again say my thoughts are with you at such a sad and sorry time,
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Postby ridderhenck » 12 Mar 2007 9:22

Thanks...to be honest,this site keeps me sane...I have been developing some new things the last couple of days,I have promised my son to make this work,becoming a good locksmith and that,s what I intend to do with the help of ya,all....
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Postby Schuyler » 12 Mar 2007 9:40

I'm so sorry, ridderhenck. I'm a donor, I hope more will be. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
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