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by jmac875 » 13 Oct 2006 10:31
Spossem,
Thanks for the link to the other thread. I did not find that in my searching. The ruler pics, and the comparison pictures are great. I still have not gotten any bristles, but then again I have not checked in with my father-in-law to see if he was able to find them. I believe I am going to make another set this weekend from the inventory posts, but much smaller. It is a little more work grinding the posts down, but in my area this is the best material I can find. Thank you for the offer of bristles, but before I take any you up on your kind offer, I would like to see if I can get them on my own. I know how tough they are to come by, and do not want to take any stock from someone that puts good use to them..
I will keep you all up to date on the progress, and thank you all for your help.
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by Spossum » 4 Nov 2006 13:47
I was studying Raimundo's photo tutorial again today, it seem like every time I learn a new little trick or something I overlooked before. I believe these photos are one of his sets of upside down bogata's.
Also, Raimundo advised me, I believe in a PM, about how he used the grooves in a piece of wood (look at his photo) to hold the bristle while working instead of a vise. I hope he doesn't mind if I share this, since he showed the photo of his workbench.
I took his advice and took a small scrap piece of hardwood, 1X2, and clamped it down in my vise. I then took a handsaw and cut 3 cuts in it. One of them the same depth of the bristle, one about half, and one I barely grooved the surface. In the deepest cut I could stick the bristles in and leave just a little sticking out the edge to file or sand. In the shallow cuts I just rested the bristles in and held with my hand. It made it so easy to file and sand. I could tilt the bristle back and forth to round the edges, or pick it up and inspect it closely. It really sped up the process. Thanks again Raimundo.

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by raimundo » 4 Nov 2006 14:05
That is exactly what I was trying to do in the photos, some day I will make a video when the right collaborator comes along locally, to help, and I will show how I can cut the metal away from the shaft with a fresh sharp file in less than 30 strokes of the file, its actually faster than a dremel, a stroke is less than a second in time. each stroke is deliberate, and pressure is put on the file to press it into the metal, when its working right, there is no high pitched sound from the file, just the sound of cutting. (a high pitched sound indicates that the file is skipping accross near the surface without enough pressure on it., this also means a mistake might come cutting in the wrong place,) the filings need to be pushed away with a brush, to keep them from interfering with the files stroke. and so you can see the work clearly.
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by UWSDWF » 4 Nov 2006 14:24
is that ray?.....

 DISCLAIMER:repeating anything written in the above post may result in dismemberment,arrest,drug and/or alcohol use,scars,injury,death, and midget obsession.
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by Romstar » 4 Nov 2006 15:08
I don't think Ray is quite that old.
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by Kaotik » 4 Nov 2006 16:09
But definitely a pick-fu jedi none-the-less.
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by Spossum » 4 Nov 2006 16:45
I have never had the priviledge of meeting the master, but here is a picture of me.

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by Kaotik » 4 Nov 2006 20:23
Spossum, I dont know about that, but I do like the light sabre bogota.
A must for all of our lockpick arsenals. 
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by SAL » 18 Nov 2006 21:11
do you sell your bogata picks? i live in the uk ,or can you supply sweeper bristles as i don't know what materials i can use which would be wide enough and as good quailty hear in the uk
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by jmac875 » 19 Nov 2006 15:48
SAL,
PM Raimundo, I believe that he has finished up pick making for this season, he does all of his work outside, but he might have some left.
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by IC-Johnny » 24 Nov 2006 17:32
Does anybody have any experience using the Bogata picks with BEST type SFIC cores. I went through the thread and only found one reference to someone having luck with them.
I may be wrong, but I think there is a tighter pin to pin spacing on the BEST type lock cores, than with the standard Kwickset or Schalge cylinders. If this is so, maybe the "standard" Bogata is not the best thing for my use. I would be open for some feedback on what I may expect when I get the Bogatas. And perhaps anyone that has had sucess with the BEST cores. After following this thread, it appears that there is some sort of specific technique involved in using these picks.
I bought a dozen or so miscellaneous BEST padlocks from an e-bay seller two years ago. The locks themselves are all in great shape. There were 7 in the group that still had their original cores in them.
I have good luck opening the locks with a standard pick, and I can do that pretty quick. I have not been able to get the cores out though. I have tried a number of self made tension wrenches (patterned after the "Finch tool") and I have read all the posts regarding the Peterson SFIC tension tools and their marginal performance trying to extract the cores.
A couple of weeks ago, I ordered a couple of sets of Raimundo's Bogata picks from a source that I found on this site. I haven't received them yet. I don't expect overnight delivery and I don't know if customs gets involved in those packages, but that's another subject completely.
I expect that it will take some time, particularly since I am in the USA and the source is in Canada. Meanwhile I am anxiously awaiting their arrival.
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by sapir » 28 Nov 2006 16:53
I took up Spossum on his offer of sweeper bristles & he sent me enough for quite a few projects. Not only was he kind enough to pack the bristles & send them to me at his expense, he included templates of picks, as well as a tracing of Ramundo's Bogotas. Thanks.
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by Kaotik » 28 Nov 2006 21:43
Spossom is quite a good guy. However, he did not send me one of those fancy drawings.
I don't need it, I just wanted to pull Spossum's chain. 
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by dmux » 17 Dec 2006 14:13
works good

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by Mr. Glass » 7 Mar 2007 1:35
They look incredible, can't wait to make a set!
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