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When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

Postby mbell » 24 Jun 2004 12:20

Well that was stupid of me!
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Postby frollard » 24 Jun 2004 12:41

you had to stop for fear of bending the tension wrench- I think you're using too much tension.
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Postby Garrett » 24 Jun 2004 13:07

frollard wrote:you had to stop for fear of bending the tension wrench- I think you're using too much tension.


It is true that the tension is my superior problem. I tense too much.
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Postby frollard » 24 Jun 2004 16:31

this is TOTALLY not meant to be 'better than thou' but....

just 'dont' :)
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Postby Chucklz » 24 Jun 2004 16:39

You need to only use a little ittty bit of force on your tension wrench.
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Postby logosys » 24 Jun 2004 16:59

Chucklz wrote:You need to only use a little ittty bit of force on your tension wrench.


I've found that putting a lot of tension on the wrench can be useful for determining which pin is binding. Release some of the tension, then pick that pin. Rinse and repeat. *click*
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Postby Chucklz » 24 Jun 2004 18:11

What exactly do you mean by "alot" of tension. For me alot is about 5 times the force to push down a keyboard key.
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Postby logosys » 24 Jun 2004 18:49

Chucklz wrote:What exactly do you mean by "alot" of tension. For me alot is about 5 times the force to push down a keyboard key.


I put enough tension to flex the tool, test the pins, then release it to just enough to function.
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Postby Chucklz » 24 Jun 2004 20:04

If it works for you, keep it in the beginning. Try to feel the pins set though, instead of testing them before hand. It may seem a meaningless distinction, but its rather different. Better locks will not give up their information so willingly.
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Postby Garrett » 25 Jun 2004 0:37

Chucklz wrote:What exactly do you mean by "alot" of tension. For me alot is about 5 times the force to push down a keyboard key.


somewhere near this i think :?
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Postby bushd » 25 Jun 2004 14:26

I made tension wrench using tweezers also, but the flex of them trying to go back to normal size kept giving inaccurate feelings and kept forcing the wrench out as I used it. If you want a variable double setup like that, i'd suggest making your own faux-falle style tension wrench, which I am planning on doing possibly this weekend.
Rawr.
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Postby OnoTadaki » 29 Jun 2004 4:20

To determine how much torque you need to use on a lock. Take the flat end of a pick and push up all the pins. Push very hard to hold all the pins up, and release tension slowly until you hear the first pin drop, that is the MAX tension you will use. To determine the minimum, find the first binding pin and set it, release tension until it falls. Enough tension to keep the pin barely set is the minimum tension you'll use.

Personally I find it hard to pick with very little tension, but I always have better success in the long run if I keep my tension down. You might want to try also varying tension by pushing hard and raking a half-diamond across the pins until you find the binding pin, then releasing tension to set the pin.

Also, if you havn't read it yet the MIT guide is a must!
http://www.gregmiller.net/locks/mitguide/ There's some great excercises in there that help hone your technique.

Your picks look awesome! Only suggestion I'd have is to go out and buy some good wet/dry sanding paper (300 grit, 800 grit and, 2000 grit.) Wet the paper and put a little bit of dish soap on it (just a drop or two.) Start out with the roughest (300 grit) and take off all the 'jaggies' around the end, then move your way up to 2000, and they'll be really smooth and sparkle after.

Good luck!
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Postby Garrett » 30 Jun 2004 6:41

I am having trouble to find so fine sand paper...

anyway here is the size of the needle i mostly use for european locks.
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v25 ... needle.jpg

Here is one "snake" i just made
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v25 ... /snake.jpg

And a shot of the needles in their pacage.
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v25 ... eedles.jpg
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Postby Garrett » 23 Oct 2004 9:33

Here are the latest lock picks i made from window wipers. They include some safety lock picks.

It took a lot of wipers:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/ ... 010003.jpg

here some tension tools:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/ ... 010004.jpg

And all the tools inside an alen case:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/ ... 010001.jpg


Any ideas what i should add?
Note that i am trying to make a small set. All the tools you see on the photos can fit in your fist. I just role all the stuff in the alen case (wrenches and handles)
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Postby TOWCH » 23 Oct 2004 15:45

Very nice set. I say hold the picks in place around the handles with some rubber bands and keey them in a metal cigar holder like another poster does.
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