Falle Safe picks from Safe Ventures

[cracksman]

Vector40 wrote:

I'd be super pissed if I bought FS picks and they had rough edges -.- They should dance and make breakfast for that cost.

mine are actually a bit "sharp" no burrs though. Well, at the top of each you can feel where it has been cut off whatever it was attached to. As far as the dancing and the breakfast, I thought one of them was starting to do a jig but I had been drinking pretty heavily at the time so...

Thanks Captain, I'm gonna run over them with some 2000 grit and a little gun oil, I was a bit afraid at first, but, I'll take your advice, it should make them that much more comfortable.

[zeke79]

I am glad someone from the US fianally ordered from safeventures. I never had the stones to do it and procured my set elsewhere but they are great. Give them that final polish, you wont regret it. It was the first thing I done to the set I have now. The first partial set of Falle Safes I had seemed to be alot smoother but they were used so maybe the had already been polished down before I got them.

[digital_blue]

Seems to me I read somewhere that the Falles are nickel plated, no? Would you run the risk of messing that up by sanding? I really don't know. I'm sure someone much more knowledgable on the subject can pipe in here.

db

[raimundo]

I think they're platinum plated,

[wtf|pickproof?]

Well, at least the price sugests that

wtf|pickproof?

[cracksman]

Zeke79 wrote:

I am glad someone from the US fianally ordered from safeventures. I never had the stones to do it and procured my set elsewhere but they are great.

Actually, Safe Ventures is well aware of this site and I believe one of the owners is a member. Sue Newton also mention one of the moderators "Pinky" when I asked if they minded if I gave a quick review on this site. I would encourage anyone interested in their stuff to drop them an e-mail. They have some amazing safecracking stuff on their site as well, although I don't know if they can sell to "anyone", I don't know anything about safe-cracking yet, but that would be a fun extension of this hobby, probably very expensive though

[digital_blue]

On that note, somebody just bought a couple S&G 6730s on ebay the other day. Looking forward to that. Just outta curiousity, was it anyone here bidding against me? molley-gus? 4Alock? You out there somewhere?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7522656963&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

P.S. Sorry for the post hijack, but you brought it up.

db

[cracksman]

Nice DB

I had a bid on a safecracking course on e-bay a couple weeks ago but it got to pricey, are you gonna need a stethescope for those or is that just in the movies

[digital_blue]

No. Have a read of Matt Blaze's "Safecracking for the Computer Scientist" on www.crypto.com Doesn't seem to be too much to it. We'll see I guess.


db

[Grudge]

Contributing to delinquency of a thread here, but a stethoscope is somewhat helpful not really necessary. It's 95% touch and pretty good eyesight (which my 40 year old eyeballs are failing on). If I had to pick, I would rather have a magnetic magnifying glass (to stick to the safe) than a stethoscope. Check out Matt Blaze's stuff, it will get you a good start (and its for free).

You can also check out my intro doc on how safes work
http://www.analoghacking.com/documents/How%20Safes%20Work.pdf

[digital_blue]

Very good doc Grudge. Thanks for that!

db

[cracksman]

Nice Grudge,

As I am now staring at an Abus Diskus 24/70 that I still can't open, I think I'll have to wait a bit before I go for the safes

[sidpick]

Once practiced with these tools - you won't go back - take it easy on the rakes though there not that strong!!
They look the 'biz' and they are the 'biz'... the only limit to these are the time you spend picking!!!!!!
I have had a set for a few years now, I'm sort of flitting between it and a peterson set - but for the locks that I have trouble with, so far the falle set (supplied by Safe Ventures) will come out to crack the lock
Take good care of it and it will take good care of you!! (but don't let anyone borrow it!!!)
With regards to Safe Ventures - they are, in my opinion 'overley helpful' to customers (not a complaint!!!!!!!!!) you really get a top 100% service. E mail, phone or face to face I always return like a kid who's been to a sweet shop!!
Never had a major problem with the tools and there is always buckets of advice if you are struggling with the tools
There's no doubting that these tools make money - the first time I used my 114 pin and cam I got a 10 pound tip from the lady (on top of the charge of about 70 pounds!!) she was so impressed at this 'box of tricks'
Still not mastered that pesky 110 though!!!!!!!

[lock_assassin]

Thanks for the great review cracksman. I too just ordered from Safe Vetures, the Falle set I have wanted ever since I first saw it (Same set you got)! I ordered via email and Sue was the most helpful person I have dealt with in some time. She answered emails the next day (not sure about time difference from USA) and was very nice. I sent her payment info and hopefully I will have the picks pretty soon.

I have been working tons of overtime the last several months and this week was the first time I got home at a decent hour. But the OT helped pay for the new tools so I can't complain.

Thanks again...

lock_assassin

[cracksman]

Congrats, you won't regret the purchase.

They do take some getting used too, so be patient. I have yet to come up against any 5 or 6 pin lock they can't handle (I still have one lock I can't handle, but the pick reaches all the pins beautifully) I would be very interested in your impression of them and would be happy to share some techniques and discuss some idiosyncrasies of these picks as well. Honestly, and I pick everyday, almost every idle minute, but I have only used about 5 picks, the rest will have to wait for more difficult locks.

p.s. told you it was a nice company to deal with