Evva keyway

[plot]

That'd be the needle looking thing on the right.....

i was only looking at the syringe needle, i just know accupuncture needles don't have holes in the middle of them, they are solid

[archiebald]

A fine tapestry needle or a crochet needle makes a fine pick that is solid and will do the job. see if granny got a spare floating around.

[toomush2drink]

how about trying here for materialshttp://www.smallparts.com/materials/ it was someone else on the forum who put me onto this site so credit to them.
Also how about using some fishing monofilament for the insert ? This wont curve as much as wire maybe ?

[Chucklz]

np on that smallparts.com stuff

The monofilament may work, but im afraid it wouldnt be stiff enough

[mbell]

So apart from PYRO1234321, anyone tried the needle idea with any success?

Also, I'm not sure if it'll work in my lock pictured at the start of the thread (the keyway is kept at a constant 1mm wide throughout).

[HeadHunterCEO]

if you could could split the very end of the wie creating a "Y" then you could apply rotation

[Mad Mick]

(the keyway is kept at a constant 1mm wide throughout).

SS braid could work in this situation. If you're not a fisherman, you may be struggling to follow this, but go to a fishing tackle shop and ask to see the wire braid for making 'pike rigs' (pickerel for the Canadians). The diameter and breaking strain will be stamped on the spool. There are quite a few different diameters available (I have some in the UK but can't remember specifics) I'm sure they are mostly less than 1mm. Braid has the advantage of having less of a memory than something made of a monofilament, but suffers more from flexibilty IMHO. For the amount of braid being used to manipulate the pins though, it's got to be worth a try.

[toomush2drink]

Just thought maybe some old fashioned fuse wire may work ?

So had any bigguns mad mick ? Me i love a bit of carp fishing and the odd pike session in the winter.

[Mad Mick]

Not really, biggest Carp was 15lb 10oz 10drams to be precise (foul hooked in the belly whilst dead bating for Pike), biggest Pike was about 20lb to be not so precise. Then I came to Bermuda, 5 1/2 years ago, and have hooked & lost a few Yellowfin Tuna well over 100lb after fighting for close to an hour (yeah, I know, the one that got away....)

Biggest Tuna landed - around 40lb at a guess, biggest Wahoo - 65lb. Last season we landed a 6ft Dusky shark into the boat ....it started thrashing .........and I was up the ladder to the flybridge in record time!

[Safekey]

Is this cylinder an EVVA DPS, with the side bar mechanism ???
If not it's easily picked by filing down a standard pick gun blade.

[mbell]

No sidebar or similar mechanisms: Not even any spool pins.

[Safekey]

As you probably know, a lot of these evva cylinders are exclusive sections to the individual company. When I have needed to pick, I use a standard pick gun blade lightly filed down, simply because the profiles of this brand are very hard to get any other kind of pick in.

[David_Parker]

Heyo, got this from Mad Micks link on the Ingersoll 'Impregnable'
http://www.textfiles.com/anarchy/LOCKPICKING/hiseclox.txt

EVVA GPI

(A) EV9 5 pin-tumbler, security keyway (3-4)
ASSA (SW) ASS4 7-pin
Best (US) BES1 6-pin (removable core)
Cisa (I) CS17 5-pin
DOM S (D) DM65-00 6-pin
Russwin (US) RW11 6-pin
Sargent (US) SAR3 6-pin
Teka (SW) TK3 6-pin
Tok-Winkhaus (D) TO18 5-pin
Vachette (F) VAC48 5-pin
Wilka (D) WK50R 5-pin
Yale (D,UK,US,I) 5 - 7-pin
Zeiss Ikon (D) ZE11 6-pin

Although these are essentially conventional pin-tumbler locks (based on the
Yale lock of the mid 1800s), they incorporate some serious security features.
These include very severe keyway warding that makes the insertion of normal
lockpicks very difficult; hardened inserts in plug and cylinder body,
mushroom drivers; and up to 7 pins. Access control is achieved using high
precision multiple side wards.

The DOM S 5-pin profile cylinder, for example, uses torpedo-shaped (tapered)
anti-picking lower pins as well as stacked-disc spool drivers. These drivers
consist of a casing pin that houses 4 independent discs. Each of these can
jam across the shear line in the same way as an ordinary spool driver. There
are a total of 1024 profile variations on the keyway, allowing a very high
level of mastering and access control.


...I know this is little info, but hey, maybe it helps.

-Dave.

[marso]

Just thought I would post a current picture of an evva Keyway. Not the greatest but you get the point.

http://www.evva.se/evva/bkgrnd.jpg

[David_Parker]

Thats odd, the bottom cylinder looks almost as if its been drilled out.

-Dave.