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by **Pheniox** » 11 May 2004 22:06

salzi684 wrote:
Pheniox, I am not sure but I don't think peterson sells the navigator set. I got mine off of lockpicks.com. They put them on sale on ocasion and you can pick up the set for $40.

opps, was thinking about this set

http://www.peterson-international.com/p ... ed.htm#Gov

yea, thats how tired i am right now.

by **salzi684** » 11 May 2004 22:10

You have that set (talking about the $185 one)? If so could you write a review?

by **Pheniox** » 11 May 2004 22:13

if i had used it for longer than 20 seconds before it washed out to sea along with about 600$ worth of diving gear, i would :cry:

was snorlking, and i get hit by a HUGE wave about 70 feet out. I watch the wave. Watching hte wave... watching the wave hit my dive bag. Watching my bag get pulled to into the sea. my only thought. "Thats not good

"

by **salzi684** » 11 May 2004 22:15

Sorry for your loss, I'm going to have nightmares tonight.

by **WhiteHat** » 11 May 2004 23:44

Pheniox wrote:was snorlking, and i get hit by a HUGE wave about 70 feet out. I watch the wave. Watching hte wave... watching the wave hit my dive bag. Watching my bag get pulled to into the sea. my only thought. "Thats not good "

What on earth are you doing with a good quality set of picks out in the middle of the ocean? :shock:

all I can picture is some sort of james-bondish comando mission that requires swimming stealthily up to an enemy vessel at night and... picking a lock..? and uh....I dunno...

by **Pheniox** » 11 May 2004 23:46

was sitting on the cliffs overlooking the beach picking locks. decided to go swimming and threw picks in my wet-dry bag.

by **Romstar** » 12 May 2004 0:52

I gotta tell you. That's the weirdest little story I have ever heard. Not only that, but the bad luck factor alone just sucks.

Romstar

by **Luke** » 12 May 2004 2:38

Phoenix has anyone really ever called you.... SIMPLE?

by **CitySpider** » 12 May 2004 9:59

Mine also came from lockpicks.com. I'm not in Canada, though, so no idea how decent they are on shipping etc.

Salzi,

If I could have a diamond hook made with a Navigator handle and made with one of the thinner Navigator stocks, I think I'd have the best of both worlds. Since I can only have my preferred shape OR my preferred construction, I'd take the Rytan if I had to choose.

With that said, I think that the Navigator is the best commercial _set_ available. There's very little deadweight -- five picks I don't use, and I can see myself using three of them in the future.

by **Pheniox** » 12 May 2004 10:01

Luke wrote:Phoenix has anyone really ever called you.... SIMPLE?

meaning?

by **Mad Mick** » 12 May 2004 17:03

Salzi: in regards to tension, I have a 6 pin Truguard 2" padlock which has 5 top spools and serrated pins on No1 stack. I haven't had much success with it using 'normal' tension, just been toying with it really, but I'll try your heavier tension method and see if it works for me.

One thing I will say, which everyone can try, is "If what you are doing right now isn't working, 'ring the changes' and do the opposite." This has worked in many a situation, be it connected to your job, or your hobby. E.G. Sometimes when out fishing and nothing is happening, doing what goes against your better judgement produces unexpected results.

by **salzi684** » 13 May 2004 17:14

I know this doesn't belong here but, I have found that the best way to atract fish to a lure is to spray that lure with WD 40 give it a try sometime.

*note-I have only tried this in fresh water.

by **Mad Mick** » 13 May 2004 17:19

Exactly!

doing what goes against your better judgement

Thanks for the tip, it may also keep the hooks from rusting..... :lol:

by **lockpickroy** » 13 Jun 2004 0:53

Pheniox, I am not sure but I don't think peterson sells the navigator set. I have an american padlock with serated top and bottom pins in 1,3,5 and serrated spool pins in 2 and 4 with serrated bottom pins. I can not tell the differance between a notch on a serrated pin and a set pin when I use light tension but, when I use medium tension it makes the lock fairly easy to pick (yes, I just said that an american padlock was fairly easy to pick). If you have an american padlock try using slightly heavier tension and with a little practice I bet you will find it is far easier to pick than before.[/quote]

I agree i have had many 1105 series aluminum body padlocks where all 5 pins are serrated (of corse there is 6 holes in the core) but only 5 are used and useing medium tension you need more pressure on the pins but they "click " into place and make picking them a lot easer

by **salzi684** » 13 Jun 2004 12:22

Thanks for posting that Lockpickroy, I am glad to see that I am not the only one.

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