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Homebrew Hall of Fame!

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

Postby Romstar » 26 Nov 2006 19:36

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Schuyler, if I tried to make that, it would either need to be laser cut, etched or I am spending a very long time with the dremel and a set of needle files.

I might make one or two sets that way, but it would be a time killer for sure.

Come to think of it.....
I have an idea.

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Postby Schuyler » 26 Nov 2006 19:43

it's very pretty.

I'm excited for your idea.
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Postby BazookaMedic » 26 Nov 2006 19:45

So does a new pick design fall under a homebrew hall of fame? Or an upgrade like in my hypersensitive weighted pick?
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Postby Schuyler » 26 Nov 2006 19:59

I think people just post here sometimes :) but I could be totally wrong.
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Kaotic's new picks

Postby IC-Johnny » 27 Nov 2006 12:16

Kaotic,

Beautiful pictures, and beautiful lockpicks too.

What material were the fabricated from? Brass? Copper? or is that just the lighting? What kind of camera / lens? I have a Nikon D-70 with a close up kit on it, but I am looking for a lens that would do that kind of detail. I can tell that those pics weren't taken with a cell phone!

Thanks!
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Sorry for the second post

Postby IC-Johnny » 27 Nov 2006 12:22

Sorry for the duplicate post, but I can't edit it.

REparsed, you also have some beautiful workmanship to be admired. Your pictures also look like real professional work. What camera did you use to take your pictures? Did you also use a special lens?
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Re: Sorry for the second post

Postby REparsed » 27 Nov 2006 13:35

IC-Johnny wrote:Sorry for the duplicate post, but I can't edit it.

REparsed, you also have some beautiful workmanship to be admired. Your pictures also look like real professional work. What camera did you use to take your pictures? Did you also use a special lens?


Thanks. I used a Fuji FinePix A500 (about 120.00 at BestBuy). I just used the camera, a couple lights (3 watt LED flashlights) and a tripod.
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Postby BazookaMedic » 27 Nov 2006 17:43

Romstar wrote:
Schuyler wrote:Image


Schuyler, if I tried to make that, it would either need to be laser cut, etched or I am spending a very long time with the dremel and a set of needle files.

I might make one or two sets that way, but it would be a time killer for sure.

Come to think of it.....
I have an idea.

Romstar



Why not mark where the heart is, then drill out as much waste as possible. Then file it. It wouldn't take to long. I would do it but I am out of hacksaw blades currently.
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Re: Kaotic's new picks

Postby Kaotik » 27 Nov 2006 17:57

IC-Johnny wrote:Kaotic,

Beautiful pictures, and beautiful lockpicks too.

What material were the fabricated from? Brass? Copper? or is that just the lighting? What kind of camera / lens? I have a Nikon D-70 with a close up kit on it, but I am looking for a lens that would do that kind of detail. I can tell that those pics weren't taken with a cell phone!

Thanks!


Thanks IC-Johnny, The handle was made from a piece of #257 Aluminum Sheet .064x4"x10" distributed by K&S Engineering and can be found at some Ace Hardware locations and Hobby Shops, was cut out of the shape freehand drawn with a jewelers saw. The blades were made from Stainless Paring Knive blades.

The camera I use is a Sony FD Mavica MVC-FD100 with 6x Precision Digital Zoom and a magnifying glass in front to get really close for detail. I still need to work out some lighting issues but it seems to work out well.
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Postby Romstar » 28 Nov 2006 1:36

BazookaMedic wrote:
Romstar wrote:
Schuyler wrote:Image


Schuyler, if I tried to make that, it would either need to be laser cut, etched or I am spending a very long time with the dremel and a set of needle files.

I might make one or two sets that way, but it would be a time killer for sure.

Come to think of it.....
I have an idea.

Romstar



Why not mark where the heart is, then drill out as much waste as possible. Then file it. It wouldn't take to long. I would do it but I am out of hacksaw blades currently.


Ever try drilling through a .025 inch thick piece of hardened stainless steel? Its not easy. I use cobolt bits, and its still a pain in the tookus.

I was thinking of something a bit different. Give me a while, I have some regular picks to finish up before I can start something like that. I can't ignore my customers.

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Postby Kaotik » 28 Nov 2006 22:03

The way I drill through thin stainless is heat the area where you plan to drill to red (not a bright red) let it cool slowly to room temperature, center punch where you want the holes to be then pin in a vise and drill slowly with just about any drill bit using a consistant mederate pressure while cooling it contsantly with cold 10w-30 motor oil .

I say cold motor oil because I put a small squeeze bottle filled with it into the freezer (it won't freeze solid) to keep the heat from the friction of the bit from getting to hot against the stainless.

I drill slowly (with a B&Decker 18w hand drill) while watching for continuous shavings of metal to come off, as you reach the other side (before drilling all the way through) speed up the drill so it doesn't hang or grab the last bit to go through.

Some one might find the usefull while other find it useless, it works for me but thought I would share. There are several grades of stainless and this method may or may not work for all so experiment with it. This is also how I got the two hole drilled in the stainless Full Suit picks.
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Postby Romstar » 28 Nov 2006 22:43

I use drilling and tapping fluid. :wink: I also don't heat the steel, even though I can reharden and temper, its a pain in the rear.

I like your method though.
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Drilling hard metal

Postby Peter Martin » 29 Nov 2006 11:32

I also heat the handles to red, cool, then center punch. Drilling without annealing was a real pain--just easier to heat them now. I used a #2 center drill because it's stout, small, and I can put pressure on it if I need to. I hand hold the pick on a small flat piece of brass so I can drill through the pick handle without the metal grabbing. The center drill hole ends up being is a good size for 3/32" rivets. I do not re-harden or temper the handles after drilling because there just isn't that much stress on them (and presuming the tip end was protected from heat by being held in a vise).

Next time I'm at a hardware store I'll check out the cobalt drill bits in 1/16, 5/64, 3/32, etc. I keep thinking that drilling the metal cold might make a hole that's more round. I was also thinking of trying to bore a hole with a Dremel tool. It also might save work from having to polish out the discoloration.
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Postby Kaotik » 29 Nov 2006 17:18

Romstar wrote:I use drilling and tapping fluid. :wink: I also don't heat the steel, even though I can reharden and temper, its a pain in the rear.

I like your method though.
Romstar


I'll tell ya, it's definitely improvised. While it can be a pain to re-temper, it doesn't bother me that much by just knowing that I put that little bit of extra work in them to insure a good looking quality tool.

I don't have anymore drilling and tapping fluid at the moment and havent for quite some time so I used that method knowing that anyone else can find a little motor oil around the house/garage to replace it with.
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Postby tooler » 30 Nov 2006 20:14

that would take a loong time to make. but it would be cool if you are successeful.
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