Falle Safe picks from Safe Ventures

by **devildog** » 23 Sep 2005 13:33

By the way, I did, in fact, get mine on TUESDAY :shock:

, so since she sent them off on Thursday morning thats only FOUR days in transit not counting Sunday and Tuesday (they arrived before noon).

by **Ben WV** » 30 Sep 2005 11:45

I had mine delivered today 09/30. So that's one calendar week. Did anybody else think the picks felt really... really different when you first tried them?? It's going to take me at least a week to get comfortable with these I think.

by **digital_blue** » 30 Sep 2005 11:50

Yes, they do have a different sorta feel to them. Since I'm used to mostly homemade picks from hacksaw blades, these feel really thin. Also, the edges are pretty sharp.

db

by **Lowtech** » 1 Oct 2005 0:08

That's what I'd call speedy service. I ordered some picks from Omaha Wholesale Hardware about 3 weeks ago and I'm still waiting. It just goes to show that pony express isn't dead yet, maybe they will get a truck some day

by **dmux** » 17 Jun 2006 16:50

i just wonder how many members have a set of these.. im really close to buying a set of them.

by **Omikron** » 17 Jun 2006 18:43

dmux wrote:i just wonder how many members have a set of these.. im really close to buying a set of them.

Well, I would guess all of the Admins, most of the moderators, and a good portion of your frequent posters. ;-)

by **Shrub** » 17 Jun 2006 18:48

I dont like them they are no magic tool and i like my old set more but i think its a practise thing,

I must say that some of the picks are very handy for tricky locks as they are very thin and can get around awkard keyways.

If you can easily afford them go for it but if you need to save up for them dont bother in my opinion, its the user that opens the locks not the tools and a good picker should be able to use most tools to open the lock and an expensive set isnt going to be any differant,

In hind sight i would actually make them if i wanted them and save my money, i do not use them on the job.

by **dmux** » 17 Jun 2006 19:36

thx for the info, they are probably the most expensive picks out there. so if there nothing special i will save the 300. i need to get some of those cutaways..

hey how do you go about opening hi-security locks shrub.. i cant seem to get it, those security pins win every time, maybe i need one of those feather tension wrenches

by **Shrub** » 17 Jun 2006 19:43

High security locks is a bit o a wide open question if you mean security pins then there are lots of threads on them but briefly,

You can feel when youve set a spool pin incorrectly by the fact that the plug will slightly bounce/turn the opposite way if you continue to push the pin up/down, you then need to reset or in some cases simply let off the tension a little and lift the pin a bit higher,

The other way is to work out which pins are spools and then lift them higher than normal then by bouncing the tensio lightly let them drop back down to the shear line, this way the spool part isnt even used,

Its all practise, if you are a little heavy handed then put a twist in your wrench near the top of the handle so it makes it a bit lighter, a light tension is the way to go on security pins.

by **LockNewbie21** » 12 Jul 2006 17:07

I agree Falles picks are so over rated and priced its not even funny, granted! Falle is a genious at this gov. issues are amazing, but for the price you be getting fully finished mirror quality picks, thus far the only thing diffrent from them are the steel used? Theres more than one metal to be exact.

I love the wrenchs those are worth the money hands down.

But all his picks are, is graudated hooks and such, there nothing special, and half i look at i would never use. Then the L-rakes are Nifty.. but not special.

To me its just like going to a clothing store.. do i want to by a pair of Armani jeans?.. they have the big name.. or buy a pair from walmart.. same thing just minor structure diffrences which in no way effect proformance.

Like i said Finish them like ray and the price is right, other wise it just a bragging rights tool kit.

Buying a set of SO's and modding them yourself or jsut plain homemades work just fine.

As far as the decodes and high security tools.. well lets jsut say he's god

Veyr simply put.

Andy

by **dmux** » 12 Jul 2006 19:52

nice post

by **devildog** » 12 Jul 2006 20:13

Professional snipers and long-range (rifle) match shooters have this phrase they use sometimes, it's called 'able to shoot up to the rifle'. What this means is that the individual using the rifle has the skill to be able to utilize the rifle to it's maximum mechanical potential, that is, if the rifle is capable of keeping 3 shots in a row at 100 yards (the standard measure of accuracy for a high-velocity rifle) inside a 2 inch group, does the USER have the skill to take any rifle capable of that accuracy and actually put those 3 rounds in a 2 inch group? Most of your average amateur shooters, deer hunters, etc. could NOT do that. The average decent-quality plain vanilla bolt-action deer rifle, like a Remington 700, is, on a good day, capable of 1-1 1/2 inch groups--very few people could 'shoot up to that rifle', yet many of them spend gobs of money on fancy crap to 'accurize' their rifle without bothering to 'accurize' themselves.

If you've got the skill to 'shoot up to' these picks, they are worth every penny asked :wink:

Very few people, even those that own these picks, could 'shoot up to them'. That includes me, but I still love 'em and dont' regret buying them for a second. Hope that restores confidence in anyone considering purchasing them--yes, they ARE worth the price asked--the question is: do you really NEED them at this point, are you so good that getting these will allow you to push the envelope even further because you're already pushing it right now with what you've got?

by **SFGOON** » 12 Jul 2006 23:50

DD, you rule my friend. Congrats on breaking 1000 posts BTW.

by **devildog** » 13 Jul 2006 0:10

Thanks, I thought you'd like that post :wink:

by **LockNewbie21** » 13 Jul 2006 6:58

As one sided as my post sounded i agree, I am certianly no pro, but also don't want to spend 300$ or more i suppose, i don;t know the price in American as of now. But as far as skill, if you have the skill, or ability, you don't need 6 diffrent hooks, or the the curvy ones.

You should be able to just sit down and think of a way to minize the 6 down to say 3? maybe even 2.

My Pick Collection is broken into to groups, Desirables, and undesirables.

Or more simply, what is the most versitile pick, meaning every pick i carry i want it to work.

I would buy some falles tools at there high price, if i could pick the ones that would actually be used.

For example, why would i buy the three or so tensioners that are non adjustable, when i could by one adjustable, even two, and and have them cover all the locks?

Why would i buy a hook with a little nipple one it? when you can buy 3.. not 6 graduated curves that would make al the other little diffrent hooks and angles undesirable and therefore become those picks you have in your set that you never use?

So baciacally, i wasn't poking at the calibure of the tools, and also not the use intened, i did bash on the finish.. but nothing perfect.. just saying for 300$ i shouldn't have to sit there and finish it.

Basically to sum it all up, look at you tools you have or bought in a set, more commonly a peterson or SO set, How many tools after getting half decent just sit there?

Andy

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