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Has anyone heard of the King and Queen Pick

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

Postby Romstar » 19 Aug 2004 0:53

WhiteHat wrote:I think I'd prefer to spend a couple of hours with a file than stick an angle grinder in a vice! :shock:


Oh, I've done it plenty of times, and only nearly lost my fingers once. :twisted:

Seriously though, I have never had an accident, and I haven't gotten around to getting a table top belt sander. So, I have a hand held belt sander that goes in the vice from time to time.

Come to think of it, I have the belt sander, a disc sander and the mini grinder that go in the vice from time to time.

The best advice is to simply make sure the grinder is secure, and be careful.

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Postby WhiteHat » 19 Aug 2004 1:45

show off :P
Oh look! it's 2016!
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Postby Romstar » 19 Aug 2004 2:32

WhiteHat wrote:show off :P


Not quite. :lol:

Anyway, it's the best I can do because I don't have a digital camera.

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Postby Helmeester » 19 Aug 2004 2:56

Romstar wrote:I know I was the one who said you could do this, and you CAN. Just, for the love of God be careful. If that things comes down while it's running, you could get hit and cut, or it could shatter the disc, and send pieces flying.

Make sure you have your goggles on at ALL times when it is running.

Romstar


i made the king and queen pick actually by making the pickblank with dremel, cutting off the large pieces, grinding it down with the grinder, and i made the fine detail with a dremel, pointed upwards, clamped in a vice... because im a lefty, all the sparks were flying in my face :) but goggles help a lot :)
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Postby reg » 19 Aug 2004 3:13

I wonder why the term "piano wire" just crossed my mind - I haven't had the chance to get some yet, but should't one be able to bend it into king and queen? Would also make a nice addition to tension tool blanks in the tool case - something to bend to the shape needed on the spot ...

I wish I could get some piano wire ... but the normal music stores here don't have it, only specialized piano stores and those are few and getting fewer ...
picky, picky ;)
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Postby jimmythelock » 19 Aug 2004 6:26

Hi all.

Just a quick addition, as well as lifting the picks with the handle parallel to the ground, if you tilt the pick to say ant where between 0 to 30 degrees to the ground you can get some more height combinations. This tilting can be applied either up or down, with both picks, with each pick having two sides. LOADS OF COMBINATIONS!

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Postby Helmeester » 19 Aug 2004 6:28

jimmythelock wrote:Hi all.

Just a quick addition, as well as lifting the picks with the handle parallel to the ground, if you tilt the pick to say ant where between 0 to 30 degrees to the ground you can get some more height combinations. This tilting can be applied either up or down, with both picks, with each pick having two sides. LOADS OF COMBINATIONS!

Jimmy :D


yeah i found that out as well, my eurocylinder practice 3 pin lock could also be opened when lifting at angle :)
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Postby Eagerpicker » 19 Aug 2004 12:18

I actually never lift with the pick parallel to the floor. I always use the tilting (see-saw) method, with the edge of the keyway as a pivot point. It seems to be a must, even, since parallel lifting would move a lot of pins along that need to remain stationary.

Or am I misunderstanding you completely, jimmythelock?

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Postby Romstar » 19 Aug 2004 21:34

reg wrote:I wonder why the term "piano wire" just crossed my mind - I haven't had the chance to get some yet, but should't one be able to bend it into king and queen? Would also make a nice addition to tension tool blanks in the tool case - something to bend to the shape needed on the spot ...

I wish I could get some piano wire ... but the normal music stores here don't have it, only specialized piano stores and those are few and getting fewer ...


Piano wire is never found at a music store, and almost never at a piano tuner's. The best place to get the stuff is a really good hobby shop, or a speciality metal supplier.

I used to keep a few pieces of spring steel, and piano wire in the pick case, but I haven't as of late. I should start doing that again.

As for bending the piano wire into a king and queen, you might have one or two problems. If it is thin enough to act as a pick, it might not be thick enough to take the pressure.
If it is thick enough, it may not fit the keyway.

Piano wire is great stuff, you just have to acept it's limitations I guess.

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Postby skold » 19 Aug 2004 21:53

hmm sound like piano wire is some good pick material..have to find me some
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Postby Beanybaby » 13 Sep 2004 18:46

I had a go at making my own king. Twas the first time i used a dremel tho :oops: Heres a pic of it
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But anyways i'm kinda a newbie at this so any feedback?

Cheers :)

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Postby Romstar » 13 Sep 2004 20:02

I actually not too bad if that's your first time with a Dremel.

Oh, and could you change that sig file? It's a tad too large. They shouldn't be much bigger than three lines of text.

Kepp up the good work, and you'll be making picks like crazy soon.

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Postby randmguy » 13 Sep 2004 20:24

Piano wire....The HPC FRS-4 kit has spring steel wire in 9" lengths. The one I have in my home shop has wire from .016-.045 diameter. I buy about a half-dozen of them a year for repairs to antique locks. Maybe now I have something to do with all the round stock I have stuffed into tubes. :D
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Postby Romstar » 13 Sep 2004 20:29

I just wish I had a bunch of the ESP and HPC flat spring steel in 5/16ths X .025 inch. That would be nice.

Saves the problem of having to gring 1/2 down to 5/16.

Oh well, I'll get by.

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Postby pick_maker » 13 Sep 2004 21:09

A decent effort Beany. Nice variation. That is one style I have not made but looks interesting. How does it function?
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