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Basic lockpicking questions ...

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

Basic lockpicking questions ...

Postby posseidon » 6 Nov 2005 6:19

Hello there. I am new to lockpicking, and I want to ask you some questions. I am sorry if these sound stupid, but I guess we all have to start somewhere ... I've read all the material on the net, the MIT guide, the SECRETS OT LOCKPICKING and still I cannot do it right ...
My first question is about the tension wrench - does it have to be long enough to reach the bottom of the plug? I tried to turn it with small screwdriver, and the tmblers just won't break (talking tumbler locks here). Could the problem be that the locks here are all upside-down (tumblers down), or I am just doing it wrong ?
My next question is - all manuals say the pins should be picked bottom to front - why? I mean, isn't it obviously easier to pickthem fron to back ?
And my last questions is about the lockpicking tools - is there any special equipment (lathe) to make them? I read in your forum that someone make his tools from a saw blade - isn't it too soft and "springy" ? I am now trying to make my tools from hard rive mounts, which seem to be enouth thin and hard?
Any suggestions should be welcome, thanks to everybody
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Re: Basic lockpicking questions ...

Postby skold » 6 Nov 2005 6:26

posseidon wrote:Hello there. I am new to lockpicking, and I want to ask you some questions. I am sorry if these sound stupid, but I guess we all have to start somewhere ... I've read all the material on the net, the MIT guide, the SECRETS OT LOCKPICKING and still I cannot do it right ...
My first question is about the tension wrench - does it have to be long enough to reach the bottom of the plug? I tried to turn it with small screwdriver, and the tmblers just won't break (talking tumbler locks here). Could the problem be that the locks here are all upside-down (tumblers down), or I am just doing it wrong ?
My next question is - all manuals say the pins should be picked bottom to front - why? I mean, isn't it obviously easier to pickthem fron to back ?
And my last questions is about the lockpicking tools - is there any special equipment (lathe) to make them? I read in your forum that someone make his tools from a saw blade - isn't it too soft and "springy" ? I am now trying to make my tools from hard rive mounts, which seem to be enouth thin and hard?
Any suggestions should be welcome, thanks to everybody



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The last time i checked we didn't need to break "tumblers" to open locks?

Oh and everyone makes their nice and flat tools on the lathe, its common practice, but a lathe will cost you thousands.

I don't know where your from but in the land of lp101 we generally pick from the FAQ section to the manual picks section..

Now go learn. Now.
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Postby posseidon » 6 Nov 2005 6:38

you were very useful
thanks
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Postby skold » 6 Nov 2005 6:41

:? i'm now going to go jump off of a bridge. brb.
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Postby Chrispy » 6 Nov 2005 6:46

Hehe. :roll: Ahh skold.
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Postby skold » 6 Nov 2005 6:49

...I could flame harder if he wishes to continue, it would be just like a fireworks show, just more fiery.
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Postby jamo » 6 Nov 2005 14:36

posseidon u might want to do alot more reading before asking those sort of questions or scald will reach boiling point!!
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Postby illusion » 6 Nov 2005 14:57

:roll:

fair enough to ask questions... could have spent time researching.

The part about using a lathe to create a FLAT pick was a bit weird, as the purpose of a lathe is to make something spin, and make it round in some shape or form.

to answer your questions:
hacksaw blades make the best starter picks, unless you wish to buy them.

reading a book will not magicly make you pick locks just by reading, but will help if you practice lots.

the 'upside down' locks are known as EURO-CYLINDERS, and follow the same rules as all others.

It sounds like you need to read and practice more.

picking a lock bottom- to-front, or front-to-bottom, is done because of the way they are constructed... it is called the binding defect, and if you had read the MIT guide fully you would know that it is as a result that the holles are drilled slightly off-axis.

DO NOT USE A LATHE - you want hacksaw blades, and either a dremel or a set of needle files.

If you have time read the ENTIRE forum, and you'll have ALL you need to know :wink:
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Postby skold » 6 Nov 2005 15:02

illusion wrote:
DO NOT USE A LATHE - you want hacksaw blades, and either a dremel or a set of needle files.

If you have time read the ENTIRE forum, and you'll have ALL you need to know :wink:



Your ruining my fun :(
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Postby illusion » 6 Nov 2005 15:13

skold wrote:Your ruining my fun :(


sorry about that - felt a weird inclination to spoon-feed this guy....
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