HTPK 36 vs Initial Super Picks Are they the same

[pickmonger]

Majestic Lock and Initial Securitie of France both sell similar lock pick sets

To me , they look like the both have the same profiles with different handles

Does anyone know if they are the same thing.

First two images of the Majestic HTPK20 and its cousin the HTPK36





and now 2 images of the Super Picks by Initial They may look a bit wider due to the image being over enlarged.

[dmux]

where did you get those initial lockpicks? they look pretty good, and there are a ton of them

[pickmonger]

Unfortunately I do not own either sets

The intial style picks are 16 pieces double ended and reversable for 64 patterns.

I have searched the internet and only found them available at 2 places

MBA Usa (Mark Bates and Associates) and Zieh Fix (aka Wendt) out of Germany.

As you probably are aware the Majestic Picks come in either the HTPK 20 or HTPK 36

FYI the link at http://zieh-fix.com/Shop/en-us/dept_9.html includes instructions on how to use the Initial Picks.

[jamesphilhulk2]

are they all rakes

[Chucklz]

They aren't rakes per se. Rather, a set of rocker/jiggle/rake a little bit picks. You can open a great deal of locks with them, but it takes a long time, as you have to try each pick 4 times (insert upsidedown as well)

[dmux]

yea i have the majestic rakes, they work pretty good

[dhoyda]

Are those all rakes or what?

I'm a noob explain why they all seem like rakes to me....

Thanks

[SFGOON]

They're not rakes, they're rockers. You shove 'em all the way in and bounce them up and down. If one doesn't work, try another. I could go into how they exploit the MACS weakness and the unique tension technique that is used with them and how they are my favorite picks and blah blah but I won't.

Initial and majestic are exactly the same, with the exception that the French ones have more picks.

[uncle trapspringer]

does anyone have a picture of either the initial super picks or the majestics with a ruler in the shot for scale comparison? found lots of pictures of them just not with a ruler in it.

thank you in advanced...