Newbs: Not worried about a case? Pick set for $4.10

[lockedin]

The cheapest deal is to buy your picks individually at southord.com. Despite what anyone might tell you, this all you need to pick every standard pin-and-tumbler in the world:

1. snake-rake (Part Number - SP-10) $1.50
2. short hook ( Part Number - SP-09) $1.50
3. Standard tension wrench (Part Number - TW-11) $1.10

Total: $4.10+shipping

Forget the multitude of rakes in each set if you're looking to pick your average door lock and padlock this is all you need. In fact, this is all I use (save the occasional use of my bogota which is on sale at the same site for $1.50) and I've been picking for years.

[p1ckf1sh]

Forget the multitude of rakes in each set if you're looking to pick your average door lock and padlock this is all you need. In fact, this is all I use (save the occasional use of my bogota which is on sale at the same site for $1.50) and I've been picking for years.

Southord has a bogota?

[lockedin]

Southord has a bogota?

Yes-- Part Number - SP-11.

http://southord.com/catalog.asp?cat=loc ... owstart=80

[Raccoon]

No, it's not a Bogota. It may be shaped like one, kinda, but it is nothing like a hand crafted and polished Bogota. I've heard this particular shape called a camel back.

You can buy these same picks for $1.25 at Southern Specialties (same company as Southern Ordinence, but they split up) at their website www.lockpicktools.com

[p1ckf1sh]

Hmmm. A bogota for three pin padlocks. Serious, in my eyes this is by no means a bogota or meant to be used like one. The trick on the bogota is to manipulate multiple if not all pins at the same time. This SP-11 pick will manipulate two pins, three at most. I think it is more of a rake. Judging from the pic to the actual size... I might be totally wrong...

[Krypos]

i have that so called bogota, it is an S rake. it actually works quite well, it looks much like a bogota but with only two spikes. it is more of a rake than a bogota, BUT it only takes like 3 strokes back and forth to open most any pin tumbler regardless of spool. (although your tension plays a HUGE part in this)

its modeled after the bogota, but they call it an S rake.

as for aesthetic quality of the S rake vs. bogota...hands down its the bogota, those things look like a brand new hand crafted katana or something, ready to cut through any lock with which it comes across. ooh...chills.

[lockedin]

Thanks p1ckf1sh for changing the whole direction of my thread --j/k. Yes, I agree that might not be a Bogota, but it has served the purpose well for me on a lot of locks. As to the original purpose of this thread, what do you guys think of recommending these three tools to a newbie insted of having them spend $20+ on a beginner set. Really most of the other picks are a joke.

The long pick-- a travesty that few can admit is useful.

The single/double snowman pick- A short hook can open wafers just as quick.

Other rakes- the snake rake serves the best purpose for raking. Remember the topic on the W rake (no, not the bogota) a while back-- a useless tool. I haven't found much use for any of the others.

[cL4y]

yeah i was actually gonna buy like 10 or so individual picks,and make my own set.

[undeadspacehippie]

hands down its the bogota, those things look like a brand new hand crafted katana or something, ready to cut through any lock with which it comes across. ooh...chills.

You have that right... love mine... its not a real deal (made by Raimundo) but its works awesome. I like to refer to it as the eye-opener - it re-aligns people's perceptions.

I am working on a smaller set - its a hook and a diamond... but I do want to add a Bogota <clone - respect to the original maker of the bogota>. I find that I use these three picks the most. I have at least a dozen others that I have made but never use... they are there for show... wow what an ego.. but its so fun making them.

[LockNewbie21]

I'd say get the peterson lifter pick... although that came out after I as well as a few others posted our home brews of them.


Hmmm i wonder how long till companies put out bogatas and my fulcrum hook?

[dskippy]

My tip is to get some of the rubber covers and use it to 1) make a more comfortable handle and 2) hold the tension wrench when you're not using it. If you have a snake and a short hook you can rubber-band the the two picks together and slide the wrench into one of the handles.

On a sadder note: I can't find the rubber handles for sale seperately. I bought mine seperately from southord. Where'd they go?

-mike

[berky93]

i am thinking of ordering some individual picks. i am a beginner so i don't know what to get. i was thinking of getting:

a short hook
a tension wrentch (standard)
a large diamond

is there anything else i should get?



note: this will be my first professional set.

[Romstar]

A small diamond, a medium diamond, a short and medium hook, a 3/4 rake and a few tension tools.

That means you are looking about about 7-9 tools. Depending on what you buy.

I do not recomend going for less. If you really have to, get the medium hook, medium diamond and some tension tools. You will discover that you need different sizes for different locks.

Romstar